[openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] - Heat support for LbaasV2

Brandon Logan brandon.logan at RACKSPACE.COM
Tue Sep 22 23:45:22 UTC 2015


Forgive my ignorance on this, but by resources are we talking about API
resources? If so I would hate V2 to be in the names because backwards
compatibility means keeping that around.  If they're not API resources,
then if we named appended the resources with V2 right now, will we be
able to remove the V2 once V1 gets removed?

Thanks,
Brandon
On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 16:40 -0700, Banashankar KV wrote:
> Ok, sounds good. So now the question is how should we name the new V2
> resources ?
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> Banashankar
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 4:33 PM, Fox, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov>
> wrote:
>         Yes, hence the need to support the v2 resources as seperate
>         things. Then I can rewrite the templates to include the new
>         resources rather then the old resources as appropriate. IE, it
>         will be a porting effort to rewrite them. Then do a heat
>         update on the stack to migrate it from lbv1 to lbv2. Since
>         they are different resources, it should create the new and
>         delete the old.
>         
>         Thanks,
>         Kevin
>         
>         
>         ______________________________________________________________
>         From: Banashankar KV [banveerad at gmail.com]
>         Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 4:16 PM
>         
>         To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
>         questions)
>         Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] - Heat support
>         for LbaasV2
>         
>         
>         
>         
>         But I think, V2 has introduced some new components and whole
>         association of the resources with each other is changed, we
>         should be still able to do what Kevin has mentioned ?
>         
>         Thanks  
>         Banashankar
>         
>         
>         
>         On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 3:39 PM, Fox, Kevin M
>         <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov> wrote:
>                 There needs to be a way to have both v1 and v2
>                 supported in one engine....
>                 
>                 Say I have templates that use v1 already in existence
>                 (I do), and I want to be able to heat stack update on
>                 them one at a time to v2. This will replace the v1 lb
>                 with v2, migrating the floating ip from the v1 lb to
>                 the v2 one. This gives a smoothish upgrade path.
>                 
>                 Thanks,
>                 Kevin
>                 ________________________________________
>                 From: Brandon Logan [brandon.logan at RACKSPACE.COM]
>                 Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015 3:22 PM
>                 To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>                 Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron][lbaas] - Heat
>                 support for LbaasV2
>                 
>                 Well I'd hate to have the V2 postfix on it because V1
>                 will be deprecated
>                 and removed, which means the V2 being there would be
>                 lame.  Is there any
>                 kind of precedent set for for how to handle this?
>                 
>                 Thanks,
>                 Brandon
>                 On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 14:49 -0700, Banashankar KV
>                 wrote:
>                 > So are we thinking of making it as ?
>                 > OS::Neutron::LoadBalancerV2
>                 >
>                 > OS::Neutron::ListenerV2
>                 >
>                 > OS::Neutron::PoolV2
>                 >
>                 > OS::Neutron::PoolMemberV2
>                 >
>                 > OS::Neutron::HealthMonitorV2
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > and add all those into the loadbalancer.py of heat
>                 engine ?
>                 >
>                 > Thanks
>                 > Banashankar
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Sergey Kraynev
>                 > <skraynev at mirantis.com> wrote:
>                 >         Brandon.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >         As I understand we v1 and v2 have
>                 differences also in list of
>                 >         objects and also in relationships between
>                 them.
>                 >         So I don't think that it will be easy to
>                 upgrade old resources
>                 >         (unfortunately).
>                 >         I'd agree with second Kevin's suggestion
>                 about implementation
>                 >         new resources in this case.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >         I see, that a lot of guys, who wants to help
>                 with it :) And I
>                 >         suppose, that me and Rabi Mishra may try to
>                 help with it,
>                 >         because we was involvement in implementation
>                 of v1 resources
>                 >         in Heat.
>                 >         Follow the list of v1 lbaas resources in
>                 Heat:
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::LoadBalancer
>                 >
>                  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::Pool
>                 >
>                 >
>                  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::PoolMember
>                 >
>                 >
>                  http://docs.openstack.org/developer/heat/template_guide/openstack.html#OS::Neutron::HealthMonitor
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >         Also, I suppose, that it may be discussed
>                 during summit
>                 >         talks :)
>                 >         Will add to etherpad with potential
>                 sessions.
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >
>                 >         Regards,
>                 >         Sergey.
>                 >
>                 >         On 22 September 2015 at 22:27, Brandon Logan
>                 >         <brandon.logan at rackspace.com> wrote:
>                 >                 There is some overlap, but there was
>                 some incompatible
>                 >                 differences when
>                 >                 we started designing v2.  I'm sure
>                 the same issues
>                 >                 will arise this time
>                 >                 around so new resources sounds like
>                 the path to go.
>                 >                 However, I do not
>                 >                 know much about Heat and the
>                 resources so I'm speaking
>                 >                 on a very
>                 >                 uneducated level here.
>                 >
>                 >                 Thanks,
>                 >                 Brandon
>                 >                 On Tue, 2015-09-22 at 18:38 +0000,
>                 Fox, Kevin M wrote:
>                 >                 > We're using the v1 resources...
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > If the v2 ones are compatible and
>                 can seamlessly
>                 >                 upgrade, great
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > Otherwise, make new ones please.
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > Thanks,
>                 >                 > Kevin
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >
>                  ______________________________________________________________________
>                 >                 > From: Banashankar KV
>                 [banveerad at gmail.com]
>                 >                 > Sent: Tuesday, September 22, 2015
>                 10:07 AM
>                 >                 > To: OpenStack Development Mailing
>                 List (not for
>                 >                 usage questions)
>                 >                 > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev]
>                 [neutron][lbaas] - Heat
>                 >                 support for
>                 >                 > LbaasV2
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > Hi Brandon,
>                 >                 > Work in progress, but need some
>                 input on the way we
>                 >                 want them, like
>                 >                 > replace the existing lbaasv1 or we
>                 still need to
>                 >                 support them ?
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > Thanks
>                 >                 > Banashankar
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 > On Tue, Sep 22, 2015 at 9:18 AM,
>                 Brandon Logan
>                 >                 > <brandon.logan at rackspace.com>
>                 wrote:
>                 >                 >         Hi Banashankar,
>                 >                 >         I think it'd be great if
>                 you got this going.
>                 >                 One of those
>                 >                 >         things we
>                 >                 >         want to have and people
>                 ask for but has
>                 >                 always gotten a lower
>                 >                 >         priority
>                 >                 >         due to the critical things
>                 needed.
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >         Thanks,
>                 >                 >         Brandon
>                 >                 >         On Mon, 2015-09-21 at
>                 17:57 -0700,
>                 >                 Banashankar KV wrote:
>                 >                 >         > Hi All,
>                 >                 >         > I was thinking of
>                 starting the work on
>                 >                 heat to support
>                 >                 >         LBaasV2,  Is
>                 >                 >         > there any concerns about
>                 that?
>                 >                 >         >
>                 >                 >         >
>                 >                 >         > I don't know if it is
>                 the right time to
>                 >                 bring this up :D .
>                 >                 >         >
>                 >                 >         > Thanks,
>                 >                 >         > Banashankar (bana_k)
>                 >                 >         >
>                 >                 >         >
>                 >                 >
>                 >                 >         >
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