[openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is now over
Anita Kuno
anteaya at anteaya.info
Fri Sep 18 04:12:48 UTC 2015
On 09/17/2015 11:26 AM, Kevin Benton wrote:
> Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like many
> paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is never a
> need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day in your own
> time zone.
OpenStack uses UTC for activities overseen by the TC:
http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20150512-utc.rst
Thanks,
Anita.
> On Sep 17, 2015 9:18 AM, "Edgar Magana" <edgar.magana at workday.com> wrote:
>
>> Folks,
>>
>> Last year I found myself in the same position when I missed a deadline
>> because my wrong planning and time zones nightmare!
>> However, the rules were very clear and I assumed my mistake. So, we should
>> assume that we do not have candidates and follow the already described
>> process. However, this should be very easy to figure out for the TC, it is
>> just a matter to find our who is interested in the PTL role and consulting
>> with the core team of that specific project.
>>
>> Just my two cents…
>>
>> Edgar
>>
>> From: Kyle Mestery
>> Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>> Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM
>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination period is
>> now over
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on
>>>>>> the wiki[0].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this
>>>>>> resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican,
>>>>>> MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is devil's advocate, but why does a project technically need a PTL?
>>>>> Just so that there can be a contact point for cross-project things,
>>>>> i.e. a lightning rod? There are projects that do a lot of group
>>>>> leadership/delegation/etc, so it doesn't seem that a PTL is technically
>>>>> required in all cases.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think that is a great question for the TC to consider when they
>>>> evaluate options for action with these projects.
>>>>
>>>> The election officials are fulfilling their obligation according to the
>>>> resolution:
>>>>
>>>> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst
>>>>
>>>> If you read the verb there the verb is "can" not "must", I choose the
>>>> verb "can" on purpose for the resolution when I wrote it. The TC has the
>>>> option to select an appointee. The TC can do other things as well,
>>>> should the TC choose.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I agree- and this is a great example of places where human judgement is
>>> better than rules.
>>>
>>> For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed the
>>> deadline, so that's probably an easy on.
>>>
>>> For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while, so this is
>>> the final nail in the coffin from my POV
>>>
>>> For the other three - I know they're still active projects with people
>>> interested in them, so sorting them out will be fun!
>>>
>>>
>> This is the right approach. Human judgement #ftw! :)
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> There are 7 projects that will have an election: Cinder, Glance,
>>>>>> Ironic,
>>>>>> Keystone, Mistral, Neutron and Oslo. The details for those will be
>>>>>> posted tomorrow after Tony and I setup the CIVS system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>> Tristan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [0]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015#Confirmed_Candidates
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1]:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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