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Midway is still on earth. :)

On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:35 AM, Neil Jerram <Neil.Jerram at metaswitch.com>
wrote:

> But on the Internet, no one knows that I'm really a crocodile, and
> writing from Midway...
>
>     Neil
>
>
> On 17/09/15 18:29, Kevin Benton wrote:
> >
> > Maybe it would be a good idea to switch to 23:59 AOE deadlines like
> > many paper submissions use for academic conferences. That way there is
> > never a need to convert TZs, you just get it in by the end of the day
> > in your own time zone.
> >
> > On Sep 17, 2015 9:18 AM, "Edgar Magana" <edgar.magana at workday.com
> > <mailto:edgar.magana at workday.com>> wrote:
> >
> >     Folks,
> >
> >     Last year I found myself in the same position when I missed a
> >     deadline because my wrong planning and time zones nightmare!
> >     However, the rules were very clear and I assumed my mistake. So,
> >     we should assume that we do not have candidates and follow the
> >     already described process. However, this should be very easy to
> >     figure out for the TC, it is just a matter to find our who is
> >     interested in the PTL role and consulting with the core team of
> >     that specific project.
> >
> >     Just my two cents…
> >
> >     Edgar
> >
> >     From: Kyle Mestery
> >     Reply-To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage
> >     questions)"
> >     Date: Thursday, September 17, 2015 at 8:48 AM
> >     To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)"
> >     Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [all][elections] PTL nomination
> >     period is now over
> >
> >     On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor
> >     <mordred at inaugust.com <mailto:mordred at inaugust.com>> wrote:
> >
> >         On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
> >
> >             On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >                 On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:
> >
> >                     PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate
> >                     list is available on
> >                     the wiki[0].
> >
> >                     There are 5 projects without candidates, so
> >                     according to this
> >                     resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new
> >                     PTL for Barbican,
> >                     MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security
> >
> >
> >                 This is devil's advocate, but why does a project
> >                 technically need a PTL?
> >                   Just so that there can be a contact point for
> >                 cross-project things,
> >                 i.e. a lightning rod?  There are projects that do a
> >                 lot of group
> >                 leadership/delegation/etc, so it doesn't seem that a
> >                 PTL is technically
> >                 required in all cases.
> >
> >
> >             I think that is a great question for the TC to consider
> >             when they
> >             evaluate options for action with these projects.
> >
> >             The election officials are fulfilling their obligation
> >             according to the
> >             resolution:
> >
> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst
> >
> >             If you read the verb there the verb is "can" not "must", I
> >             choose the
> >             verb "can" on purpose for the resolution when I wrote it.
> >             The TC has the
> >             option to select an appointee. The TC can do other things
> >             as well,
> >             should the TC choose.
> >
> >
> >         I agree- and this is a great example of places where human
> >         judgement is better than rules.
> >
> >         For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed
> >         the deadline, so that's probably an easy on.
> >
> >         For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while,
> >         so this is the final nail in the coffin from my POV
> >
> >         For the other three - I know they're still active projects
> >         with people interested in them, so sorting them out will be fun!
> >
> >
> >     This is the right approach. Human judgement #ftw! :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >                     There are 7 projects that will have an election:
> >                     Cinder, Glance, Ironic,
> >                     Keystone, Mistral, Neutron and Oslo. The details
> >                     for those will be
> >                     posted tomorrow after Tony and I setup the CIVS
> >                     system.
> >
> >                     Thank you,
> >                     Tristan
> >
> >
> >                     [0]:
> >
> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015#Confirmed_Candidates
> >
> >                     [1]:
> >
> http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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