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On Thu, Sep 17, 2015 at 10:26 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:

> On 09/17/2015 04:50 PM, Anita Kuno wrote:
>
>> On 09/17/2015 08:22 AM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/17/2015 8:25 AM, Tristan Cacqueray wrote:
>>>
>>>> PTL Nomination is now over. The official candidate list is available on
>>>> the wiki[0].
>>>>
>>>> There are 5 projects without candidates, so according to this
>>>> resolution[1], the TC we'll have to appoint a new PTL for Barbican,
>>>> MagnetoDB, Magnum, Murano and Security
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is devil's advocate, but why does a project technically need a PTL?
>>>   Just so that there can be a contact point for cross-project things,
>>> i.e. a lightning rod?  There are projects that do a lot of group
>>> leadership/delegation/etc, so it doesn't seem that a PTL is technically
>>> required in all cases.
>>>
>>
>> I think that is a great question for the TC to consider when they
>> evaluate options for action with these projects.
>>
>> The election officials are fulfilling their obligation according to the
>> resolution:
>>
>> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.rst
>>
>> If you read the verb there the verb is "can" not "must", I choose the
>> verb "can" on purpose for the resolution when I wrote it. The TC has the
>> option to select an appointee. The TC can do other things as well,
>> should the TC choose.
>>
>
> I agree- and this is a great example of places where human judgement is
> better than rules.
>
> For instance - one of the projects had a nominee but it missed the
> deadline, so that's probably an easy on.
>
> For one of the projects it had been looking dead for a while, so this is
> the final nail in the coffin from my POV
>
> For the other three - I know they're still active projects with people
> interested in them, so sorting them out will be fun!
>
>
This is the right approach. Human judgement #ftw! :)


>
>
>>
>>>
>>>> There are 7 projects that will have an election: Cinder, Glance, Ironic,
>>>> Keystone, Mistral, Neutron and Oslo. The details for those will be
>>>> posted tomorrow after Tony and I setup the CIVS system.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Tristan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [0]:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/PTL_Elections_September_2015#Confirmed_Candidates
>>>>
>>>> [1]:
>>>>
>>>> http://governance.openstack.org/resolutions/20141128-elections-process-for-leaderless-programs.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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