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On Mon, Nov 23, 2015 at 8:51 AM, Dmitry Tantsur <dtantsur at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 11/23/2015 05:42 PM, Morgan Fainberg wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> This email is being written in the context of Keystone more than any
>> other project but I strongly believe that other projects could benefit
>> from a similar evaluation of the policy.
>>
>> Most projects have a policy that prevents the following scenario (it is
>> a social policy not enforced by code):
>>
>> * Employee from Company A writes code
>> * Other Employee from Company A reviews code
>> * Third Employee from Company A reviews and approves code.
>>
>> This policy has a lot of history as to why it was implemented. I am not
>> going to dive into the depths of this history as that is the past and we
>> should be looking forward. This type of policy is an actively
>> distrustful policy. With exception of a few potentially bad actors
>> (again, not going to point anyone out here), most of the folks in the
>> community who have been given core status on a project are trusted to
>> make good decisions about code and code quality. I would hope that
>> any/all of the Cores would also standup to their management chain if
>> they were asked to "just push code through" if they didn't sincerely
>> think it was a positive addition to the code base.
>>
>
> Thanks for raising this. I always apply this policy in ironic not because
> I don't think we're trustful with my colleagues. The problem I'm trying to
> avoid is members of the same company having the same one-sided view on a
> problem.
>
>
A change of this policy doesn't preclude reaching out for more view points,
and that should always be done. This is part of trusting the cores to know
when this is valuable. :) Thanks for joining the convo here!


>
>> Now within Keystone, we have a fair amount of diversity of core
>> reviewers, but we each have our specialities and in some cases (notably
>> KeystoneAuth and even KeystoneClient) getting the required diversity of
>> reviews has significantly slowed/stagnated a number of reviews.
>>
>
> This is probably a fair use case for not applying this rule.
>
>
>> What I would like us to do is to move to a trustful policy. I can
>> confidently say that company affiliation means very little to me when I
>> was PTL and nominating someone for core. We should explore making a
>> change to a trustful model, and allow for cores (regardless of company
>> affiliation) review/approve code. I say this since we have clear steps
>> to correct any abuses of this policy change.
>>
>> With all that said, here is the proposal I would like to set forth:
>>
>> 1. Code reviews still need 2x Core Reviewers (no change)
>> 2. Code can be developed by a member of the same company as both core
>> reviewers (and approvers).
>> 3. If the trust that is being given via this new policy is violated, the
>> code can [if needed], be reverted (we are using git here) and the actors
>> in question can lose core status (PTL discretion) and the policy can be
>> changed back to the "distrustful" model described above.
>>
>> I hope that everyone weighs what it means within the community to start
>> moving to a trusting-of-our-peers model. I think this would be a net win
>> and I'm willing to bet that it will remove noticeable roadblocks [and
>> even make it easier to have an organization work towards stability fixes
>> when they have the resources dedicated to it].
>>
>> Thanks for your time reading this.
>>
>> Regards,
>> --Morgan
>> PTL Emeritus, Keystone
>> <http://lists.openstack.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openstack-dev>
>>
>
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