Open Stack

On 11/16/2015 09:34 AM, michael mccune wrote:
> On 11/13/2015 07:58 AM, Sean Dague wrote:
>> The #openstack-api IRC channel is quite quiet most days. As such it's
>> not something that people are regularly checking in on, or often forget
>> about (I know I've been guilty of that). Plus we don't always have the
>> right people in a conversation to make a decision.
>>
>> I'd like to propose we drop the channel entirely and make #openstack-sdk
>> the home of API working group conversations. That's where all the
>> openstackclient, openstackclientconfig, and sdk conversations are
>> happening. It's where the end consumers of any API WG effort are, so are
>> incredibly good sounding boards for things we are doing. There is
>> already a large overlap between the two channels, so just pushing
>> forward on that means more critical mass for conversations around the
>> whole space of a more usable API for users.
>>
>> This came up at the last API WG meeting, but those are pretty low quorum
>> events, so this is a thing we should definitely decide over ML instead.
>>
>> Please express your feelings here and lets make it happen. :)
> 
> i don't necessarily have an outright objection to this, but i would like
> explore the future possibilities of this change.
> 
> i think there is possibility for the api-wg to grow and take on more
> responsibility within the openstack community and i'm curious about the
> net effect down the road if that expansion were to occur. are there any
> side-effects we should be aware of as we merge the two
> channels/communities into one namespace?
> 
> i realize there is some overlap of engineering/design that takes place
> on these channels, i'm just concerned about the idea of merging the two
> and then at some point in the future wanting to separate them. i'm not
> proposing these thoughts to quash the idea of joining, i'd just like to
> more fully understand the longer term implications of a merge.
> 
> anyone with more experience in this community-oriented side of things
> have some light to shed?

Typically the only real reason to spin off another channel is that there
are now too many conversations happening all at once that are unrelated
and people are finding it is impeding their ability to get work done. I
can't imagine this happening any time within the next couple of years.
An average day in #openstack-api is < 20 messages (from a quick spot
check in IRC logs).

I feel there is a lot of benefits in having these groups that do related
work all doing it in one channel. Even though it's a number of discreet
outputs, the "hallway track" of having api producers and consumers doing
their business all in front of each other should quite help in ensuring
that we all make something better.

	-Sean


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Sean Dague
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