[openstack-dev] [all] [dlm] Zookeeper and openjdk, mythbusted

Joshua Harlow harlowja at fastmail.com
Mon Nov 9 20:28:31 UTC 2015


Sean Dague wrote:
> On 11/09/2015 06:05 AM, Thierry Carrez wrote:
> <snip>
>> So that is an important point. While there is "the Oracle JVM", there is
>> nothing like "OpenJDK". There are a number of OpenJDK builds by various
>> distros and they are all different (and of varying quality). The beast
>> is brittle, as anyone who has ever run the TCK on OpenJDK should be able
>> to tell you. The reason a lot of Java bugtrackers still start by asking
>> you to "reproduce on Oracle's JVM" is to eliminate that unknown, not
>> because OpenJDK is always bad.
>>
>> My main objection about picking a Java solution was that we'd in effect
>> force our users into a non-free solution so that they eliminate that
>> unknown themselves. I guess as long as we are reasonably confident that
>> ZooKeeper behaves well with most OpenJDK implementations, and that there
>> are solid, well-known free software deployment options available, we
>> should be fine ?
>
> I think that's where declaring this fact early is good. Hey distros,
> this is going to need to work out of the box. Seems pretty reasonable
> and a heads up that is going to ensure things need to function well down
> the road.
>
> I do wonder what the cause of varying quality is in the distros. I do
> understand that some distros aren't licensing the test suite. But they
> are all building from the same upstream.
>
> I want to be really specific before we as a community spread FUD around
> an effort like openjdk. Because it doesn't help us make decisions long
> term if we're basing that on long standing biases that may or may not
> still be supported by data.

+1 we should probably try to resolve our own communities FUD (which 
there is enough of) vs. creating more FUD for another community to deal 
with...

>
> 	-Sean
>



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