[openstack-dev] [Neutron] service chaining feature development meeting minutes

Cathy Zhang Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com
Tue May 12 00:42:13 UTC 2015


Hi Isaku,

Sorry that I missed your email. I sent out the meeting info. Hope you received it. 
I will forward it to you in a separate email.

Thanks,
Cathy

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From: Isaku Yamahata [mailto:isaku.yamahata at gmail.com] 
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Hello Cathy. Thank you for arranging the meeting.

Will we have goto meeting/irc meeting this week(May 12) on this topic?
I haven't seen any announcement yet.

thanks in advance
Isaku Yamahata

On Tue, May 05, 2015 at 08:55:25PM +0000,
Cathy Zhang <Cathy.H.Zhang at huawei.com> wrote:

> Attendees (Sorry we did not catch all the names):
> Cathy Zhang (Huawei), Louis Fourie, Alex Barclay (HP), Vikram Choudhary, Carlos Goncalves (NTT) mail at cgoncalves.pt<mailto:mail at cgoncalves.pt>, Adolfo Duarte (HP) adolfo.duarte at hp.com<mailto:adolfo.duarte at hp.com>
> German Eichberger (HP)  german.eichberger at hp.com<mailto:german.eichberger at hp.com>, Swami Vasudevan (HP)  swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com<mailto:swaminathan.vasudevan at hp.com>, Uri  Elzur (Intel)  uri.elzur at intel.com<mailto:uri.elzur at intel.com>
> Joe D'Andrea (ATT) jdandrea at research.att.com<mailto:jdandrea at research.att.com>, Isaku Yamahata (Intel) isaku.yamahata at gmail.com<mailto:isaku.yamahata at gmail.com>, Malini Bhandaru malini.k.bhandaru at intel.com<mailto:malini.k.bhandaru at intel.com>,
> Michael Johnson (HP) johnsom at hp.com<mailto:johnsom at hp.com>, Lynn Li (HP) lynn.li at hp.com<mailto:lynn.li at hp.com>, Mickey Spiegel (IBM) emspiege at us.ibm.com<mailto:emspiege at us.ibm.com>, Ryan Tidwell (HP) ryan.tidwell at hp.com<mailto:ryan.tidwell at hp.com>
> Ralf Trezeciak openstack at trezeciak.de<mailto:openstack at trezeciak.de>, David Pinheiro, Hardik Italia
> 
> Agenda:
> Cathy presented the service chain architecture and blueprints and Gerrit review for:
> 
> -           Neutron Extensions for Service chaining
> 
> -          Common Neutron SFC Driver API
> 
> 
> 
> There is a lot of interest on this feature.
> 
> 
> 
> Questions
> 
> Uri: Does this BP specify the implementation in the backend data path? Cathy: This could be implemented by various data path chaining schemes: eg. IETF service chain header, VLAN.
> 
> Uri: What happens if the security group/iptables conflict with SGs for port-chain? Cathy: it is expected that conflicts will be resolved by the upper layer "Intent Infra".
> 
> Vikram: can other datapath transports be used. Cathy: Yes, what is defined in the BP is the NBI for Neutron.
> 
> Swami: add use case and example. Cathy: will add. There is a SFC use case BP, will contact authors.
> 
> Carlos: how does this relate to older traffic steering BP. Cathy: we can discuss offline and work together to incorporate the traffic steering BP idea into this BP.
> 
> Uri: are these two BPs for NBI and SBI for Neutron? Cathy: yes
> 
> Isaku: does Kyle know about BPs? Cathy: yes
> 
> Uri: how do these BPs relate to rest of Openstack? Cathy: There will be a presentation on the service chain framework at 2pm May 18 at the Vancouver Summit. It will be presented by Cathy together with Kyle Mestery and Dave Lenrow.
> 
> Swami:  It helps to present a simple service chain use case at meeting next week. Suggest to have IRC meeting too as it provides a record of what is discussed. Cathy: I have already created the IRC meeting for service chain project, will start the IRC meeting too.
> 
> Malini: we should have a complete spec so redesign is avoided.
> 
> Swami: We should use Neutron design session at Vancouver to discuss this BP and flesh out details.
> Action Items
> 
> 
> 1.     We will have two meetings next week: one "goto" meeting with audio and data sharing, the other IRC meeting with link to google doc for sharing diagrams. Cathy will send out the meeting info to the community
> 
> 2.     Swami will send an email to Kyle Mestery requesting a time slot for service chaining topic in Neutron design session so that we can get all interested parties in one room for a good face-to-face discussion.
> 
> 3.     Cathy will discuss with Carlos offline about incorporating the traffic steering idea into the service chain BPs.
> 
> 4.     Service chaining is a complicated solution involving management plane, control plane, and data plane as well as multiple components. The consensus is to first design/implement the two Neutron related service chain BPs https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177946 and get the feature approved by Neutron Core/Driver team and implemented for the OpenStack L release. If we can not get a slot in the design session, we will meet at the service chain presentation on May 18 and find a room to discuss how to move forward with this feature development in OpenStack.
> 
> Feel free to chime in if I miss any points.
> 
> Thanks,
> Cathy
> 
> 
> 

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