[openstack-dev] [Nova] The unbearable lightness of specs

Joe Gordon joe.gordon0 at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 21:17:13 UTC 2015

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 11:42 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart at redhat.com>

> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 10:02:27AM -0500, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 6/24/2015 9:09 AM, Kashyap Chamarthy wrote:
> > >On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 02:51:38PM +0100, Nikola Đipanov wrote:
> > >>On 06/24/2015 02:33 PM, Matt Riedemann wrote:
> [. . .]
> > >This is one of the _baffling_ aspects -- that a so-called "super core"
> > >has to approve specs with *no* obvious valid reasons.  As Jay Pipes
> > >mentioned once, this indeed seems like a vestigial remnant from old
> > >times.
> > >
> > >FWIW, I agree with others on this thread, Nova should get rid of this
> > >specific senseless non-process.  At least a couple of cycles ago.
> >
> > Specs were only added a couple of cycles ago... :)  And they were added
> to
> > fill a gap, which has already been pointed out in this thread.  So if we
> > remove them without a replacement for that gap, we regress.
> Oops, I didn't mean to say that "Specs" as a concept should be gone.
> Sorr for poor phrasing.
> My question was answred by Joe Gordon with this review:
>     https://review.openstack.org/#/c/184912/

A bit more context:

We discussed the very issue of adjusting the review rules for nova-specs to
give all cores +2 power. But in the end we decided not to in the end.

As someone who does a lot of spec reviews, I take +1s from the right people
(not always nova-cores) to mean a lot, so much that I regularly will simply
skim the spec myself before +2ing it. If a subject matter expert who I
trust +1s a spec, that is usually all I need.

* +1/-1s from the right people have a lot of power on specs. So the review
burden isn't just on the people with '+W' power.  We may not have done a
great job of making this point clear.
* There are many subject matter experts outside nova-core who's vote means
a lot. For example PTL's of other projects the spec impacts.

> --
> /kashyap
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