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Kevin, I agree with your break out, except I think you are missing a 3rd category.   100's of public cloud support specialists, developers, and product management folks use the CLI without scripts every day in supporting the OpenStack services and customers.  Using and interacting with the CLI is how folks learn the OpenStack services. The CLIs can be painful for those users when they actually want to learn the service, not shell script around it.

-Keith

From: <Fox>, Kevin M <Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov<mailto:Kevin.Fox at pnnl.gov>>
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 6:28 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an app?

-1. There are developers and there are users/admins. The former tend to write in python. the latter, shell.

Thanks,
Kevin
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From: Keith Bray [keith.bray at RACKSPACE.COM<mailto:keith.bray at RACKSPACE.COM>]
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an app?

Isn't that what the SDK is for?   To chip in with a Product Management type hat on, I'd think the CLI should be primarily focused on user experience interaction, and the SDK should be primarily targeted for developer automation needs around programmatically interacting with the service.   So, I would argue that the target market for the CLI should not be the developer who wants to script.

-Keith

From: Adrian Otto <adrian.otto at rackspace.com<mailto:adrian.otto at rackspace.com>>
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Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 12:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Solum] Should logs be deleted when we delete an app?

Interactive choices like that one can make it more confusing for developers who want to script with the CLI. My preference would be to label the app delete help text to clearly indicate that it deletes logs
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