[openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Openstack] Rescinding the M name decision

Jay Bryant jsbryant at electronicjungle.net
Sat Jul 11 17:24:46 UTC 2015


Well put, and interesting. I didn't know about the other cultural concerns
around numbers.

Most importantly, I think using names for releases is better than numbers,
creating a more personal connection to each release. Would hate to see that

Unfortunately there isn't much we can do to avoid legal concerns. If people
are more frustrated by having legal on the backend, it sounds like we have
an alternative to return to. If all else fails we could vote on which
process was preferred after the M release.


On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 4:20 AM Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>

> Adam Lawson wrote:
> > The alternative of course is to just number the releases since names
> > ultimately don't mean anything but it seems there are problems with that
> > level of simplicity. I personally prefer Tristan's suggestion to keep it
> > as simple as possible. In a few years we'll run out of letters anyway.
> Part of the confusion here is that we are not naming "releases". We are
> naming release *cycles*. We are giving a name to a period of time,
> basically. In that period of time, various version numbers for various
> components will be released. Saying "Glance 12.0.0 was released in
> OpenStack 13 cycle" is not really helping.
> We won't run out of letters, because the names can cycle back to A
> (potentially using a new theme, away from "geographic features near
> where the corresponding design summit happened").
> So while we could technically name a release cycle "14", I feel it's a
> bit more difficult to rally around a number than a name. Also, numbers
> wouldn't really solve the perceived issues with names: numbers happen to
> also be culturally meaningful. You don't have a 13th floor in many US
> buildings. In China, building miss the 4th floor instead. 9 is feared in
> Japan. And don't talk about 39 to Afghans.
> I think "growing up" is accepting the pain that comes with picking a
> good name, rather than sidestepping the issue.
> --
> Thierry Carrez (ttx)
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