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On 07/08/2015 01:51 AM, Tristan Goode wrote:
> There's an easy solution to this and a great first step of the community to
> improve diversity by inclusion. Names will always offend someone somewhere
> on the planet, and this time we've made a cracker by offending an entire
> country. (Though it might be fun to call the next release "Nixon")
> 
> 
> 
> So let's give up naming things like toys in our play crib, start acting
> like grown ups and using semver or plain old integers. At worst, we might
> have some people see bugs in version 13.

We already use semver. This is not a realistic solution to anything.

> 
> Cheers
> 
> Tristan
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> 
> *From:* Jaesuk Ahn [mailto:bluejay.ahn at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 8 July 2015 2:41 PM
> *To:* OpenStack Development Mailing List; Openstack Users; Monty Taylor;
> Community User Groups, OpenStack
> *Subject:* Re: [openstack-community] [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) -
> Our next release name has been selected
> 
> 
> 
> Dear OpenStack Community,
> 
> 
> 
> As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the name
> of "Meiji".
> 
> 
> 
> I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have
> not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list.
> 
> However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my concern
> over this name.
> 
> 
> 
> It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread.
> 
> Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some
> historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of
> Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea
> suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the one
> only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of
> history.
> 
> 
> 
> FYI, there is a wiki entry:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
> 
> If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will
> understand what I am referring to.
> 
> 
> 
> I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state
> that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East Asia.
> 
> 
> 
> I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that process
> to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all.
> 
> However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern over
> this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any
> unnecessary debate.
> 
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> 
> Best wishes for everyone here in the community.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
> 
> member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group.
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> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com> wrote:
> 
> http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm
> 
> There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure if
> OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is what
> Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia."
> 
> Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt.
> 
> Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political
>> debates in East Asia, as far as I know.
>>
>> Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first two
>> selected from our election?
>>
>>
>> With many thanks,
>>
>> /Ian
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa <masayuki.igawa at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> # I'm a native Japanese speaker :-)
>>>
>>> 2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>:
>>>
>>>> Maybe this (the google answer)?
>>>>
>>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ
>>>
>>>
>>> Yeah, this is correct pronunciation.
>>>
>>>
>>>> But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm.
>>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY
>>> I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar with
>>> this.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -- Masayuki Igawa
>>>
>>>
>>>> -amrith
>>>>
>>>> P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee"
> with
>>>> the emphasis on the "meh" ;)
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Matthias Runge [mailto:mrunge at redhat.com]
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM
>>>> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release
> name
>>>> has been selected
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote:
>>>>> significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji (
> 明
>>>>> 治) is clear.
>>>>>
>>>>> So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ... and
>>>>> if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two
>>>>> new characters.
>>>>
>>>> Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly?
>>>> --
>>>> Matthias Runge <mrunge at redhat.com>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>> --
>>> -- Masayuki Igawa
>>>
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