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"Mitaka" seems very beautiful name. I am pretty sure it will be really
beautiful city as Michael described. Anyway, I will follow any process to
pick the name.

As long as I know, there has already been active discussion on versioning.
Switching from year-based policy to sem versioning.

For the release name, although it can create unexpected debate like this
one, I personally think using word can have its own benefit. If the number
is everything to describe a release, it is less fun for sure. =)

I am pretty sure we can come up with better way to have our release name. I
will actively participate such discussion.

Cheers,


Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
member of OpenStack Community..


On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:58 PM Michael Micucci <micucci at midokura.com> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> #4 was Mitaka (三鷹, meaning "three hawks"), I believe?
>
> Mitaka is a very beautiful city, if I may say so (I lived there, so I'm
> a bit biased :)), with Inokashira Park, a zoo, and many walking trails.
> Plus, the Ghibli Museum is there, which celebrates a very famous and
> well-loved animation studio throughout the world, with a similar
> pedigree to Disney in the U.S.A. (such as Spirited Away, Howl's Moving
> Castle, Nausicaa and the Valley of the Wind, My Neighbor Totoro, among
> many other great films)  With animation being a world-wide export from
> Japan, it seems like a nice (and current) thing to celebrate.
>
> I'd like to support Iwamoto-san's proposal in the interest of peace and
> cooperation between our international communities, and suggest we switch
> to "Mitaka."
>
> I just hope there are no legal problems with this name as well. :)
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Michael Micucci
>
>
> On 07/08/2015 02:31 PM, IWAMOTO Toshihiro wrote:
> > It is totally understandable that the combination of "Japan" and
> > "Meiji" recalls harsh history to some people, especially in East Asia.
> > As a Japanese, I'm sorry for that.
> >
> > I think the release naming process should not cause such friction.
> > Could we just select some other neutral candidate name instead?
> >
> > At Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:40:58 +0000,
> > Jaesuk Ahn wrote:
> >> Dear OpenStack Community,
> >>
> >> As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the
> name
> >> of "Meiji".
> >>
> >> I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have
> >> not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list.
> >> However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my
> concern
> >> over this name.
> >>
> >> It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread.
> >> Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some
> >> historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of
> >> Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea
> >> suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the
> one
> >> only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of
> >> history.
> >>
> >> FYI, there is a wiki entry:
> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
> >> If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will
> >> understand what I am referring to.
> >>
> >> I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state
> >> that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East
> Asia.
> >>
> >> I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that
> process
> >> to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all.
> >> However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern
> over
> >> this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any
> >> unnecessary debate.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Best wishes for everyone here in the community.
> >>
> >>
> >> Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
> >> member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm
> >>>
> >>> There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure
> if
> >>> OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is
> what
> >>> Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia."
> >>>
> >>> Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt.
> >>>
> >>> Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700:
> >>>> Hello,
> >>>>
> >>>> I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political
> >>>> debates in East Asia, as far as I know.
> >>>>
> >>>> Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first
> two
> >>>> selected from our election?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> With many thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> /Ian
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa <
> masayuki.igawa at gmail.com
> >>>>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi,
> >>>>> # I'm a native Japanese speaker :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Maybe this (the google answer)?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Yeah, this is correct pronunciation.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY
> >>>>> I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar
> with
> >>>>> this.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>> -- Masayuki Igawa
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> -amrith
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee"
> >>> with
> >>>>>> the emphasis on the "meh" ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>>> From: Matthias Runge [mailto:mrunge at redhat.com]
> >>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM
> >>>>>> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
> >>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release
> >>> name
> >>>>>> has been selected
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote:
> >>>>>>> significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji
> >>> (明
> >>>>>>> 治) is clear.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ...
> and
> >>>>>>> if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two
> >>>>>>> new characters.
> >>>>>> Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly?
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Matthias Runge <mrunge at redhat.com>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>
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