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It is totally understandable that the combination of "Japan" and
"Meiji" recalls harsh history to some people, especially in East Asia.
As a Japanese, I'm sorry for that.

I think the release naming process should not cause such friction.
Could we just select some other neutral candidate name instead?

At Wed, 08 Jul 2015 04:40:58 +0000,
Jaesuk Ahn wrote:
> 
> Dear OpenStack Community,
> 
> As Clint mentioned, there is some historical background regarding the name
> of "Meiji".
> 
> I have been aware of the potential problem with "Meiji", however, I have
> not raise my voice here since it was not the top of the list.
> However, with current situation, IMHO, it is better to present my concern
> over this name.
> 
> It was briefly mentioned in the previous email thread.
> Once again, please understand that the name "Meiji" can create some
> historical debate in East Asia, especially in Korea. Under the name of
> Emperor Meiji, Japan forcefully colonized Korea. Lots of people in Korea
> suffered during the colonization. Furthermore, this history is not the one
> only exists on the book. This is actually very recent event in terms of
> history.
> 
> FYI, there is a wiki entry:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korea_under_Japanese_rule
> If you look at "legacy" section in the above wiki entry, you will
> understand what I am referring to.
> 
> I am not saying the word "Meiji" is bad in general. I just want to state
> that this word can cause very negative feeling to some people in East Asia.
> 
> I totally value the community's process and rules. I recognize that process
> to select "Meiji" itself was not the problem at all.
> However, I am sincerely asking the community to acknowledge my concern over
> this name, and please put some effort as a community to avoid any
> unnecessary debate.
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> Best wishes for everyone here in the community.
> 
> 
> Jaesuk Ahn, Ph.D.
> member of OpenStack Community and OpenStack Korea User Group.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 2:24 AM Clint Byrum <clint at fewbar.com> wrote:
> 
> > http://afe.easia.columbia.edu/main_pop/kpct/kp_meiji.htm
> >
> > There's a summary of what Meiji might mean to historians. I'm not sure if
> > OpenStack needs to be too concerned about this, but I believe this is what
> > Ian is referring to as "historical and political debates in East Asia."
> >
> > Seems like a hot-button name for OpenStack to adopt.
> >
> > Excerpts from Ian Y. Choi's message of 2015-07-07 05:40:52 -0700:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I think the third name 'Meiji' may arise some historical and political
> > > debates in East Asia, as far as I know.
> > >
> > > Could you share what significant identified problems are on the first two
> > > selected from our election?
> > >
> > >
> > > With many thanks,
> > >
> > > /Ian
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 7, 2015 at 8:55 PM, Masayuki Igawa <masayuki.igawa at gmail.com
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > > # I'm a native Japanese speaker :-)
> > > >
> > > > 2015年7月7日(火) 20:33 Amrith Kumar <amrith at tesora.com>:
> > > >
> > > >> Maybe this (the google answer)?
> > > >>
> > > >> www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qvw0A12aOGQ
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yeah, this is correct pronunciation.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> But someone who is a native Japanese speaker should confirm.
> > > >>
> > > >
> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D9vwge557hY
> > > > I think this is a casual version and Japanese people are familiar with
> > > > this.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > -- Masayuki Igawa
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> -amrith
> > > >>
> > > >> P.S. the yahoo answer suggests that you pronounce it as "Meh - gee"
> > with
> > > >> the emphasis on the "meh" ;)
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: Matthias Runge [mailto:mrunge at redhat.com]
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2015 6:08 AM
> > > >> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
> > > >> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] OpenStack Meiji (明治) - Our next release
> > name
> > > >> has been selected
> > > >>
> > > >> On Mon, Jul 06, 2015 at 11:48:13PM -0400, Monty Taylor wrote:
> > > >> > significant identified problems... but the third in the list, Meiji
> > (明
> > > >> > 治) is clear.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > So please join me in welcoming the latest name to our family ... and
> > > >> > if you, like me, are not a native Japanese speaker, in learning two
> > > >> > new characters.
> > > >>
> > > >> Could someone provide a hint please, how to pronounce this properly?
> > > >> --
> > > >> Matthias Runge <mrunge at redhat.com>
> > > >>
> > > >>
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