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Hi,

+1 to Dmitriy's comment.
We can spend several month on polishing the spec, will it help
to release feature in time? I don't think so.
Also with your suggestion we'll get a lot of patches over 2 thousands
lines of code, after spec is merged. Huge patches reduce quality,
because it's too hard to review, also such patches much harder
to get merged.
I think the spec should be a synchronization point, where different
teams can discuss details and make sure that everything is correct.
The spec should represent the current state of the code which is
merged and which is going to be merged.

Thanks,

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 1:03 AM, Dmitriy Shulyak <dshulyak at mirantis.com>
wrote:

> Andrew,
> What should be sorted out? It is unavoidable that people will comment and
> ask questions during development cycle.
> I am not sure that merging spec as early as possible, and than add
> comments and different fixes is good strategy.
> On the other hand we need to eliminate risks.. but how merging spec can
> help?
>
> On Wed, Jan 28, 2015 at 8:49 PM, Andrew Woodward <xarses at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Vova,
>>
>> Its great to see so much progress on this, however it appears that we
>> have started merging code prior to the spec landing [0] lets get it
>> sorted ASAP.
>>
>> [0] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/113491/
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Vladimir Kuklin <vkuklin at mirantis.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi, Fuelers and Stackers
>> >
>> > I am glad to announce that we merged initial support for granular
>> deployment
>> > feature which is described here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks
>> >
>> > This is an important milestone for our overall deployment and operations
>> > architecture as well as it is going to significantly improve our
>> testing and
>> > engineering process.
>> >
>> > Starting from now we can start merging code for:
>> >
>> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization
>> >
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing
>> >
>> > We are still working on documentation and QA stuff, but it should be
>> pretty
>> > simple for you to start trying it out. We would really appreciate your
>> > feedback.
>> >
>> > Existing issues are the following:
>> >
>> > 1) pre and post deployment hooks are still out of the scope of main
>> > deployment graph
>> > 2) there is currently only puppet task provider working reliably
>> > 3) no developer published documentation
>> > 4) acyclic graph testing not injected into CI
>> > 5) there is currently no opportunity to execute particular task - only
>> the
>> > whole deployment (code is being reviewed right now)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yours Faithfully,
>> > Vladimir Kuklin,
>> > Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>> > Mirantis, Inc.
>> > +7 (495) 640-49-04
>> > +7 (926) 702-39-68
>> > Skype kuklinvv
>> > 45bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str.
>> > Moscow, Russia,
>> > www.mirantis.com
>> > www.mirantis.ru
>> > vkuklin at mirantis.com
>> >
>> >
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>> Andrew
>> Mirantis
>> Ceph community
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 8:21 AM, Vladimir Kuklin <vkuklin at mirantis.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Hi, Fuelers and Stackers
>> >
>> > I am glad to announce that we merged initial support for granular
>> deployment
>> > feature which is described here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/granular-deployment-based-on-tasks
>> >
>> > This is an important milestone for our overall deployment and operations
>> > architecture as well as it is going to significantly improve our
>> testing and
>> > engineering process.
>> >
>> > Starting from now we can start merging code for:
>> >
>> > https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modularization
>> >
>> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/fuel/+spec/fuel-library-modular-testing
>> >
>> > We are still working on documentation and QA stuff, but it should be
>> pretty
>> > simple for you to start trying it out. We would really appreciate your
>> > feedback.
>> >
>> > Existing issues are the following:
>> >
>> > 1) pre and post deployment hooks are still out of the scope of main
>> > deployment graph
>> > 2) there is currently only puppet task provider working reliably
>> > 3) no developer published documentation
>> > 4) acyclic graph testing not injected into CI
>> > 5) there is currently no opportunity to execute particular task - only
>> the
>> > whole deployment (code is being reviewed right now)
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yours Faithfully,
>> > Vladimir Kuklin,
>> > Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>> > Mirantis, Inc.
>> > +7 (495) 640-49-04
>> > +7 (926) 702-39-68
>> > Skype kuklinvv
>> > 45bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str.
>> > Moscow, Russia,
>> > www.mirantis.com
>> > www.mirantis.ru
>> > vkuklin at mirantis.com
>> >
>> >
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>>
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>> Andrew
>> Mirantis
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>> Ceph community
>>
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