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Rob,

Can we set some goals for the server projects too?

Say anything deprecated in liberty timeframe in oslo libs or any other
libs we consume should be fixed by milestone2 in mitaka? At the moment
the burden is entirely on oslo and hence unfair.

Thanks,
Dims

On Mon, Dec 21, 2015 at 2:15 PM, Robert Collins
<robertc at robertcollins.net> wrote:
> On 21 December 2015 at 04:57, Davanum Srinivas <davanum at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nova folks,
>>
>> We have this review in oslo.utils:
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/252898/
>>
>> There were failed effort in the past to cleanup in Nova:
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/164753/
>> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/197601/
>>
>> What do we do? Suggestions please.
>
> We don't remove it yet. Not till liberty-eol at the earliest, or if we
> don't get users migrated early enough, mitaka-eol.
>
> We would benefit from an automated thing in place to tell projects
> like Nova that they are using deprecated things during CI (without
> bloating deployer logs) -  whether a keystone API, an oslo config
> option or function, or $whatever. We would also benefit from a thing
> to rollup such information from consuming projects back to the
> deprecating project, so we can tell whether we're ready to cleanup old
> things.
>
> I think in general that there needs to be a balance around effort on
> migrations: if oslo deprecates something - anything - we're creating
> work for consumers of oslo. Its unfair for us to do that unilaterally.
> Conversely, if projects don't migrate away from poor APIs onto newer
> better ones, they create long term maintenance work for oslo: so we
> all need to work together to coordinate such things.
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/226157/12 is part of this - it is an
> effort to bring consistency in expectations and process/patterns here.
>
> -Rob
>
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> Robert Collins <rbtcollins at hpe.com>
> Distinguished Technologist
> HP Converged Cloud
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