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On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 3:43 PM, Mike Scherbakov <mscherbakov at mirantis.com>
wrote:

> If there are no concrete points why we should wait, I'm +1 to go ahead
> with merges.
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:32 AM Oleg Gelbukh <ogelbukh at mirantis.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Evgeniy,
>>
>> True, and I fully support merging this particular change as soon as
>> possible, i.e. the moment the 'master' is open for 9.0 development.
>>
>> -Oleg
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 12:28 PM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Oleg,
>>>
>>> With the same degree of confidence we can say that anything we have in
>>> the beginning of
>>> the release cycle is not urgent enough. We pushed early branching
>>> specifically for
>>> such big changes as Docker removal/Changing repos structures and merging
>>> invasive patches
>>> for new release features.
>>>
>>> Vladimir Kuklin,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what do you mean by "fixing 2 different environments"? With
>>> environment without
>>> containers it will simplify debugging process.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Oleg Gelbukh <ogelbukh at mirantis.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Although I agree that it should be done, the removal of Docker doesn't
>>>> seem an urgent feature to me. It is not blocking anything besides moving to
>>>> full package-based deployment of Fuel, as far as I understand. So it could
>>>> be easily delayed for one milestone, especially if it is already almost
>>>> done and submitted for review, so it could be merged fast before any other
>>>> significant changes land in 'master' after it is open.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> Oleg Gelbukh
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:56 PM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
>>>> vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Vladimir,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have other activities planned for the time immediately after SCF
>>>>> (separating UI from fuel-web, maybe it is even more invasive :-)) and it is
>>>>> not a big deal to postpone this feature or another. I am against the
>>>>> approach itself of postponing something because it is too invasive. If we
>>>>> create stable branch master becomes open. That was our primary intention to
>>>>> open master earlier than later when we decided to move stable branch
>>>>> creation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 8:28 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <vkuklin at mirantis.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Vladimir
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am pretty much for removing docker, but I do not think that we
>>>>>> should startle our developers/QA folks with additional efforts on fixing 2
>>>>>> different environments. Let's just think from the point of development
>>>>>> velocity here and at delay such changes for at least after NY. Because if
>>>>>> we do it immediately after SCF there will be a whole bunch of holidays and
>>>>>> Russian holidays are Jan 1st-10th and you (who is the SME for docker
>>>>>> removal) will be offline. Do you really want to fix things instead of
>>>>>> enjoying holidays?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 to Vladimir Kozhukalov,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Entire point of moving branches creation to SCF was to perform such
>>>>>>> changes as
>>>>>>> early as possible in the release, I see no reasons to wait for HCF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Vladimir Kozhukalov <
>>>>>>> vkozhukalov at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -1
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We already discussed this and we have made a decision to move
>>>>>>>> stable branch creation from HCF to SCF. There were reasons for this. We
>>>>>>>> agreed that once stable branch is created, master becomes open for new
>>>>>>>> features. Let's avoid discussing this again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vladimir Kozhukalov
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 9:55 AM, Bulat Gaifullin <
>>>>>>>> bgaifullin at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Bulat Gaifullin
>>>>>>>>> Mirantis Inc.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 15 Dec 2015, at 22:19, Andrew Maksimov <amaksimov at mirantis.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Andrey Maximov
>>>>>>>>> Fuel Project Manager
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 9:41 PM, Vladimir Kuklin <
>>>>>>>>> vkuklin at mirantis.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Folks
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This email is a proposal to push Docker containers removal from
>>>>>>>>>> the master node to the date beyond 8.0 HCF.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Here is why I propose to do so.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Removal of Docker is a rather invasive change and may introduce a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of regressions. It is well may affect how bugs are fixed - we might
>>>>>>>>>> have 2 ways of fixing them, while during SCF of 8.0 this may affect
>>>>>>>>>> velocity of bug fixing as you need to fix bugs in master prior to fixing
>>>>>>>>>> them in stable branches. This actually may significantly increase our
>>>>>>>>>> bugfixing pace and put 8.0 GA release on risk.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Yours Faithfully,
>>>>>>>>>> Vladimir Kuklin,
>>>>>>>>>> Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>>>>>>>>>> Mirantis, Inc.
>>>>>>>>>> +7 (495) 640-49-04
>>>>>>>>>> +7 (926) 702-39-68
>>>>>>>>>> Skype kuklinvv
>>>>>>>>>> 35bk3, Vorontsovskaya Str.
>>>>>>>>>> Moscow, Russia,
>>>>>>>>>> www.mirantis.com <http://www.mirantis.ru/>
>>>>>>>>>> www.mirantis.ru
>>>>>>>>>> vkuklin at mirantis.com
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> Yours Faithfully,
>>>>>> Vladimir Kuklin,
>>>>>> Fuel Library Tech Lead,
>>>>>> Mirantis, Inc.
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>>>>>> +7 (926) 702-39-68
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