[openstack-dev] [cinder]Do we have project scope for cinder?

hao wang sxmatch1986 at gmail.com
Tue Dec 1 00:51:46 UTC 2015


Thanks Xing Yang, I have noticed this spec, it's glad to see you to
start this work.

2015-11-30 23:10 GMT+08:00 yang, xing <xing.yang at emc.com>:
> Hi Wang Hao,
>
> Here¹s a Cinder spec in review on replicating a group of volumes:
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/229722/
>
> It is a not an easy problem to solve.  Not that we should rush on this
> problem, but we should start thinking about how to solve this as some
> backends can only replicate a CG or a pool of volumes.
>
> Thanks,
> Xing
>
>
>
> On 11/30/15, 4:51 AM, "hao wang" <sxmatch1986 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi, Duncan
>>
>>2015-11-30 15:54 GMT+08:00 Duncan Thomas <duncan.thomas at gmail.com>:
>>> Hi WangHao
>>>
>>> This was quite thoroughly discussed during the early discussions on
>>> replication. The general statement was 'not yet'. Getting any kind of
>>> workable replication API has proven to be very, very difficult to get
>>>right
>>> - we won't know for another full cycle whether we've actually gotten it
>>> somewhere near right, as operators start to deploy it. Piling more
>>>feature
>>> in the replication API before a) it has been used by operators and b)
>>> storage vendors have implemented what we already has would IMO be a
>>>mistake.
>>
>>I agree with you, in my mind, using replication what we have is first
>>thing we should done,
>>improve it much better is second thing, and then we will add another
>>new features
>>one by one stably.
>>
>>> None of this means that more DR interfaces don't belong in cinder, just
>>>that
>>> getting them right, getting them universal and getting them useful is
>>>quite
>>> a hard problem, and not one we should be in a rush to solve.
>>>Particularly as
>>> DR and replication is still a niche area of cinder, and we still have
>>>major
>>> issues in our basic functionality.
>>
>>Yes, this will convince me about DR in Cinder, very clearly, thanks.
>>>
>>> On 30 November 2015 at 03:45, hao wang <sxmatch1986 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Sean and Michal,
>>>>
>>>> In fact, there is a reason that I ask this question. Recently I have a
>>>> confusion about if cinder should provide the ability of Disaster
>>>> Recovery to storage resources, like volume. I mean we have volume
>>>> replication v1&v2, but for DR, specially DR between two independent
>>>> OpenStack sites(production and DR site), I feel we still need more
>>>> features to support it, for example consistency group for replication,
>>>> etc. I'm not sure if those features belong in Cinder or some new
>>>> project for DR.
>>>>
>>>> BR
>>>> WangHao
>>>>
>>>> 2015-11-30 3:02 GMT+08:00 Sean McGinnis <sean.mcginnis at gmx.com>:
>>>> > On Sun, Nov 29, 2015 at 11:44:19AM +0000, Dulko, Michal wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 2015-11-28 at 10:56 +0800, hao wang wrote:
>>>> >> > Hi guys,
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I notice nova have a clarification of project scope:
>>>> >> > http://docs.openstack.org/developer/nova/project_scope.html
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I want to find cinder's, but failed,  do you know where to find
>>>>it?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > It's important to let developers know what feature should be
>>>> >> > introduced into cinder and what shouldn't.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > BR
>>>> >> > Wang Hao
>>>> >>
>>>> >> I believe Nova team needed to formalize the scop to have an
>>>>explanation
>>>> >> for all the "this doesn't belong in Nova" comments on feature
>>>>requests.
>>>> >> Does Cinder suffer from similar problems? From my perspective it's
>>>>not
>>>> >> critically needed.
>>>> >
>>>> > I agree. I haven't seen a need for something like that with Cinder.
>>>>Wang
>>>> > Hao, is there a reason you feel you need that?
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
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