[openstack-dev] [neutron][L3][dvr][fwaas] FWaaS with DVR
Germy Lure
germy.lure at gmail.com
Fri Aug 28 06:53:29 UTC 2015
Hi all,
I have two points.
a. For the problem in this thread, my suggestion is to introduce new
concepts to replace the existing firewall and SG.
Perhaps you have found the overlap between firewall and SG. It's trouble
for user to select.
So the new concepts are edge-firewall for N/S traffic and Distributed
firewall for W/E traffic. The former is similar to the existing firewall
but without E/W controlling and deployed on those nodes connect with
external world. The latter controls E/W traffic such as subnet to subnet,
VM to VM and subnet to VM and will be deployed on compute nodes.
We can attach firewall rules to VM port implicitly, especially the DVR is
disabled. I think it's difficult for a user to do that explicitly while
there are hundreds VMs.
b. For the problems like this.
>From recent mailing list, we can see so many problems introduced by DVR.
Such as VPNaaS, floating-IP and FWaaS co-existing with DVR, etc..
Then, stackers, I don't know what's the standard or outgoing check of
releasing a feature in community. But can we make or add some provisions or
something else in order to avoid conflict between features?
Forgive my poor English
BR,
Germy
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 11:44 PM, Mickey Spiegel <emspiege at us.ibm.com>
wrote:
> Bump
>
> The FWaaS team would really like some feedback from the DVR side.
>
> Mickey
>
> -----Mickey Spiegel/San Jose/IBM wrote: -----
> To: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
> From: Mickey Spiegel/San Jose/IBM
> Date: 08/19/2015 09:45AM
> Subject: [fwaas][dvr] FWaaS with DVR
>
> Currently, FWaaS behaves differently with DVR, applying to only
> north/south traffic, whereas FWaaS on routers in network nodes applies to
> both north/south and east/west traffic. There is a compatibility issue due
> to the asymmetric design of L3 forwarding in DVR, which breaks the
> connection tracking that FWaaS currently relies on.
>
> I started an etherpad where I hope the community can discuss the problem,
> collect multiple possible solutions, and eventually try to reach consensus
> about how to move forward:
> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/FWaaS_with_DVR
>
> I listed every possible solution that I can think of as a starting point.
> I am somewhat new to OpenStack and FWaaS, so please correct anything that I
> might have misrepresented.
>
> Please add more possible solutions and comment on the possible solutions
> already listed.
>
> Mickey
>
>
>
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