In our pbr integration tests we ensure that 'python setup.py install' works, as well as ensuring that 'pip install' works. But see http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2013-September/015525.html - for the last 18 months in pbr we've treated complains that setup.py install fails as a reason to say 'use pip install .'. I'd like to make that a little more official: - put it in our docs - stop testing python setup.py install. This would relegate setup.py to building, not installation, which is what its intended to be these days. Thoughts? -Rob -- Robert Collins <rbtcollins at hp.com> Distinguished Technologist HP Converged Cloud