Open Stack

On 24/04/15 09:00, Ed Leafe wrote:
> I'm not sure what you see as the difference between the "end users" and the "operators" of OpenStack, because in my mind they are one and the same. I don't consider the people using, say, public cloud services to be OpenStack end users, because ultimately they just want stuff that works, and if it doesn't, they'll blame the provider, not OpenStack. I see our end users as the people who deploy and run OpenStack clouds.

Whoa! Back the terminology train up.

There's been longstanding confusion whenever anyone mentions the word 
"users" because it is ambiguous whether it refers to the people who 
deploy OpenStack clouds or the people who deploy workloads on them. This 
has largely been resolved by a conscious effort to refer to the two 
groups as "operators" and "end users" respectively.

The *last* thing we need is to muddy the waters again since, contrary to 
your (I hope inadvertent) implication, both groups are important and 
they often have different (and occasionally conflicting) interests. The 
qualifier "end" is there for a reason; don't ignore it.

cheers,
Zane.