[openstack-dev] [Openstack-operators] [Neutron] The specs process, effective operators feedback and product management

Miguel Angel Ajo Pelayo mangelajo at redhat.com
Wed Apr 22 06:29:15 UTC 2015


The rally process (email based) doesn’t seem scalable enough for the neutron case
IMHO, but I agree that a voting system doesn’t differ too much from launchpad
and that it can be gamed.

> On 22/4/2015, at 1:21, Assaf Muller <amuller at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
> Just to offer some closure, it seems like the voting idea was shot down with
> the energy of a trillion stars, yet the general idea of offering an easy way
> for users to request features makes sense. Expect to see ideas of how
> to implement this soon...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
>> 
>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 11:04 AM, Boris Pavlovic <boris at pavlovic.me> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I believe that specs are too detailed and too dev oriented for managers,
>>> operators and devops.
>>> They actually don't want/have time to write/read all the stuff in specs and
>>> that's why the communication between dev & operators community is a
>>> broken.
>>> 
>>> I would recommend to think about simpler approaches like making mechanism
>>> for proposing features/changes in projects.
>>> Like we have in Rally:
>>> https://rally.readthedocs.org/en/latest/feature_requests.html
>>> 
>>> This is similar to specs but more concentrate on WHAT rather than HOW.
>> 
>> +1
>> 
>> I think the line between HOW and WHAT are too often blurred in Neutron.
>> Unless we’re able to improve our ability to communicate at an appropriate
>> level of abstraction with non-dev stakeholders, meeting their needs will
>> continue to be a struggle.
>> 
>> 
>> Maru
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