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I definitely understand that. But what is the major complaint from
operators? I understood that quote to imply it was around Neutron's model
of self-service networking.

If the main reason the remaining Nova-net operators don't want to use
Neutron is due to the fact that they don't want to deal with the Neutron
API, swapping some implementation defaults isn't really going to get us
anywhere on that front.

It's an important distinction because it determines what actionable items
we can take (e.g. what Salvatore mentioned in his email about defaults).
Does that make sense?

On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 11:33 AM, Jeremy Stanley <fungi at yuggoth.org> wrote:

> On 2015-04-17 10:55:19 -0700 (-0700), Kevin Benton wrote:
> > I understand. What I'm saying is that switching to Linux bridge
> > will not change the networking model to 'just connect everything
> > to a simple flat network'. All of the complaints about
> > self-service networking will still hold.
>
> And conversely, swapping simple bridge interfaces for something else
> still means problems are harder to debug, whether or not you're
> stuck with self-service networking features you're not using.
> --
> Jeremy Stanley
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