[openstack-dev] Thoughts on OpenStack Layers and a Big Tent model

Thierry Carrez thierry at openstack.org
Tue Sep 23 16:52:39 UTC 2014


Devananda van der Veen wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 8:40 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug at doughellmann.com> wrote:
>> One is a technical discussion that has nothing at all to do with governance. The other is entirely about governance.
>>
>> If we are no longer incubating *programs*, which are the teams of people who we would like to ensure are involved in OpenStack governance, then how do we make that decision? From a practical standpoint, how do we make a list of eligible voters for a TC election? Today we pull a list of committers from the git history from the projects associated with “official programs", but if we are dropping “official programs” we need some other way to build the list.
> 
> I don't think incubation ever applied to programs. Any program listed
> in http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/programs.yaml
> is "official" and gets voting rights starting in the election after it
> was added to that file.

I confirm there never was incubation for programs. The only thing that
goes through incubation are projects that want to become part of the
integrated release.

> I also don't think that Monty's proposal suggests that we drop
> programs. I think it's suggesting the opposite -- we allow *more*
> programs (and the projects associated with them) into the openstack/*
> fold without requiring them to join the integrated gating of the
> "layer #1" projects.

Although the proposal might make them so cheap we wouldn't need a formal
word for them.

-- 
Thierry Carrez (ttx)



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