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My general understanding is 2.6 support is deprecated for Juno, and fair
to be removed in Kilo.

So the killing it with fire should be able to happen soon.

	-Sean

On 09/22/2014 02:52 PM, Armando M. wrote:
> I suspect that the very reason underlying the existence of this thread
> is that some users out there are not quite ready to pull the plug on
> Python 2.6.
> 
> Any decision about stopping the support of Python 2.6 should not be
> taken solely on making the developer's life easier, but maybe I am
> stating the obvious.
> 
> Thanks,
> Armando
> 
> On 22 September 2014 11:39, Solly Ross <sross at redhat.com> wrote:
>> I'm in favor of killing Python 2.6 with fire.
>> Honestly, I think it's hurting code readability and productivity --
>>
>> You have to constantly think about whether or not some feature that
>> the rest of the universe is already using is supported in Python 2.6
>> whenever you write code.
>>
>> As for readability, things like 'contextlib.nested' can go away if we can
>> kill Python 2.6 (Python 2.7 supports nested context managers OOTB, in a much
>> more readable way).
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Solly
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Joshua Harlow" <harlowja at outlook.com>
>>> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 2:33:16 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] [infra] Python 2.6 tests can't possibly be passing in neutron
>>>
>>> Just as an update to what exactly is RHEL python 2.6...
>>>
>>> This is the expanded source rpm:
>>>
>>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8405074/
>>>
>>> The main one here appears to be:
>>>
>>> - python-2.6.6-ordereddict-backport.patch
>>>
>>> Full changelog @ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8405082/
>>>
>>> Overall I'd personally like to get rid of python 2.6, and move on, but then
>>> I'd also like to get rid of 2.7 and move on also ;)
>>>
>>> - Josh
>>>
>>> On Sep 22, 2014, at 11:17 AM, Monty Taylor <mordred at inaugust.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 09/22/2014 10:58 AM, Kevin L. Mitchell wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 2014-09-22 at 10:32 -0700, Armando M. wrote:
>>>>>> What about:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://github.com/openstack/neutron/blob/master/test-requirements.txt#L12
>>>>>
>>>>> Pulling in ordereddict doesn't do anything if your code doesn't use it
>>>>> when OrderedDict isn't in collections, which is the case here.  Further,
>>>>> there's no reason that _get_collection_kwargs() needs to use an
>>>>> OrderedDict: it's initialized in an arbitrary order (generator
>>>>> comprehension over a set), then later passed to functions with **, which
>>>>> converts it to a plain old dict.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So - as an update to this, this is due to RedHat once again choosing to
>>>> backport features from 2.7 into a thing they have labeled 2.6.
>>>>
>>>> We test 2.6 on Centos6 - which means we get RedHat's patched version of
>>>> Python2.6 - which, it turns out, isn't really 2.6 - so while you might
>>>> want to assume that we're testing 2.6 - we're not - we're testing
>>>> 2.6-as-it-appears-in-RHEL.
>>>>
>>>> This brings up a question - in what direction do we care/what's the
>>>> point in the first place?
>>>>
>>>> Some points to ponder:
>>>>
>>>> - 2.6 is end of life - so the fact that this is coming up is silly, we
>>>> should have stopped caring about it in OpenStack 2 years ago at least
>>>> - Maybe we ACTUALLY only care about 2.6-on-RHEL - since that was the
>>>> point of supporting it at all
>>>> - Maybe we ACTUALLY care about 2.6 support across the board, in which
>>>> case we should STOP testing using Centos6 which is not actually 2.6
>>>>
>>>> I vote for just amending our policy right now and killing 2.6 with
>>>> prejudice.
>>>>
>>>> (also, I have heard a rumor that there are people running in to problems
>>>> due to the fact that they are deploying onto a two-release-old version
>>>> of Debian. No offense - but there is no way we're supporting that)
>>>>
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