Open Stack

Excerpts from Matt Joyce's message of 2014-10-31 09:17:23 -0700:
> On one hand, I agree a member of the TC should be a very active member
> of the development community.  Something I have not been, much to my shame.
> 
> However, there are obviously some fundamental issues in how the TC has been
> governing OpenStack in the past few releases.  Very serious issues in the
> project have been largely ignored.  Foremost in my mind, among them, is
> the lack of an upgradability path.  I remember there being large discussion
> and agreement to address this at folsom, and further back.  I have seen no
> meaningful effort made to address a functionality requirement that has been
> requested repeatedly and emphatically since as far back as austin.
> 

I'm not sure the TC can do this. The time is invested where those with
time to invest see fit. So if there are features or bugs that need work
from a user perspective, then I would argue the problem isn't the TC,
but a general lack of communication between users and developers. That
is not a new idea, but it is also not something the TC is really in a
position to fix.

That being said, I think the issues you're talking about are _massive_
flaws that take many releases to address. As Russell said in his response,
many of these are getting much better. This is a common problem in
development, where it looks like nothing is getting better in some areas,
because some problems are just _hard_ to solve.

> I can raise other issues that continue to plague usership, such as neutron
> failing to take over for nova-network now two releases after it's planned
> obsolescence.  My concern, is that the TC comprised entirely of active 
> developers ( most of whom are full time on the open source side of this
> project ), is trapped in something of an echo chamber.  I have no real
> reason to suggest this is the case, beyond the obvious failure by the 
> project to address concerns that have been paramount in the eyes of users
> for years now.  But, the concern lingers.  
> 
> I fear that the TC is beholden entirely to the voice of the development
> community and largely ignorant of the concerns of others.  Certainly,
> the incentives promote that.  The problem of course, is that the TC is
> responsible for driving purogratives in development that reflect more
> than the development communities desires.
> 

I do wonder if we should try to encourage some of our operators to join
the TC. I'm not really sure how to do that, but I'd certainly put a
seasoned operator high on the list if they stood for election and
presented a strong case.