Open Stack

Yes, the aim is to get a vagrant-openstack provider plugin under
Hashicorp's or Mitchellh's github account. Whether you call that "official"
or "blessed", doesn't really matter.

In order for Vagrant to integrate with other tools such as Packer there
needs to be a preferred plugin. Hopefully the owners of the other plugins
will agree to deprecate theirs so that an end can be put to the
fragmentation that has happened so far and direct contributors to the
correct place.


On 29 October 2014 10:04, Flavio Percoco <flavio at redhat.com> wrote:

> On 28/10/14 21:23 +0100, Philip Cheong wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> In preparation of the OpenStack Summit in Paris next week, I'm hoping to
>> speak
>> to some people in the OpenStack foundation about the benefits of a
>> partnership
>> with Hashicorp, who make fantastic tools like Vagrant and Packer (and
>> others).
>>
>> As a n00b aspiring to become an OpenStack contributor, the variety of
>> Vagrant
>> devstack environments is pretty overwhelming. It appears to me that it
>> really
>> depends on what project you are contributing to, which denotes which
>> devstack
>> you should use. The ones I have tried take a long time (45 mins+) to
>> provision
>> from scratch.
>>
>> One aspect which I am acutely aware of is developer productivity and 45
>> minutes
>> is a lot of time. Packer was designed to help alleviate bottleneck, and
>> Vagrantcloud has inbuilt support for the versioning of Vagrant boxes. It
>> would
>> be a pretty straight forward exercise to use Packer to do a daily (or
>> however
>> often) build of a devstack box and upload it to Vagrantcloud for
>> developers to
>> download. With a decent internet connection that time would be
>> significantly
>> less than 45 minutes.
>>
>> I would really like to think that this community should also be able to
>> come to
>> a consensus over what to include in a "standard" devstack. That there
>> currently
>> seems to be many different flavours cannot help with issues of
>> fragmentation
>> between so many different moving parts to build an OpenStack environment.
>>
>> Another big issue that I hope to address with the foundation, is the
>> integration of Hashicorp's tools with OpenStack.
>>
>> The various Vagrant plugins to add OpenStack as a provider is a mess.
>> There is
>> one specific for Rackspace who have a different Keystone API, and at
>> least 3
>> others for the vanilla OpenStack:
>> https://github.com/mitchellh/vagrant-rackspace
>> https://github.com/ggiamarchi/vagrant-openstack-provider
>> https://github.com/cloudbau/vagrant-openstack-plugin
>> https://github.com/FlaPer87/vagrant-openstack
>>
>
> I'm pretty sure mine doesn't even work any more, I don't even know
> ruby ;)
>
> I do see a value in having a vagrant-openstack provider but I don't
> think we should pick one and mark it as blessed. We're trying very
> hard to move away from 'blessing' projecs, at the very least depend
> less on it.
>
> Anyone should feel free to create the provider on stackforge and
> maintain it. What would be even better is to have Hashicorp itself
> creating and maintaining this provider.
>
> Cheers,
> Flavio
>
>
>> The significance of not having an "official" provider, for one example,
>> is when
>> you use Packer to build an image in OpenStack and try to post-process it
>> into a
>> Vagrant box, it bombs with this error:
>>
>>
>>    ==> openstack: Running post-processor: vagrant
>>    Build 'openstack' errored: 1 error(s) occurred:
>>
>>    * Post-processor failed: Unknown artifact type, can't build box:
>>    mitchellh.openstack
>>
>>
>> Because Packer doesn't know what Vagrant expects the provider to be, as
>> explained here.
>>
>> In my opinion this a pretty big issue holding back the wider acceptance of
>> OpenStack. When I am at a customer and introduce them to tools like
>> Vagrant and
>> Packer and how well they work with AWS, I still avoid the conversation
>> about
>> OpenStack when I would really love to put them on our (Elastx's) public
>> cloud.
>>
>> What say you? Could I get a +1 from those who see this as a worthwhile
>> issue?
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Phil.
>> --
>> Philip Cheong
>> Elastx | Public and Private PaaS
>> email: philip.cheong at elastx.se
>> office: +46 8 557 728 10
>> mobile: +46 702 870 814
>> twitter: @Elastx
>> http://elastx.se
>>
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