[openstack-dev] [Glance][Cinder] The sorry state of cinder's driver in Glance
Mathieu Gagné
mgagne at iweb.com
Wed Oct 22 15:51:29 UTC 2014
On 2014-10-22 10:05 AM, John Griffith wrote:
>
> Ideas started spreading from there to "Using a Read Only Cinder Volume
> per image", to "A Glance owned Cinder Volume" that would behave pretty
> much the current local disk/file-system model (Create a Cinder Volume
> for Glance, attach it to the Glance Server, partition, format and
> mount... use as image store).
>
To add to John Griffith's explanation:
This is a feature we have wanted for *several* months and finally
implemented in-house in a different way directly in Cinder.
Creating a volume from an image can takes *several* minutes depending on
the Cinder backend used. For someone using BFV as its main way to boot
instances, it is a *HUGE* issue.
This causes several problems:
- When BFV, Nova thinks the volume creation failed because it took more
than 2 minutes to create the volume from the image. Nova will then
"retry" the volume creation, still without success, and instance will go
in ERROR state.
You now have 2 orphan volumes in Cinder. This is because Nova cannot
cleanup after itself properly due to volumes still being in "creating"
state when deletion is attempted by Nova.
- So you try to create the volume yourself first and ask Nova to boot on
it. When creating a volume from an image in Cinder (not through Nova),
from a UX perspective, this time is too long.
Time required adds up when using a SolidFire backend with QoS. You have
the time to get several coffees and a whole breakfast with your friends
to talk about how creation a volume from an image is too damn slow.
What we did to fix the issue:
- We created a special tenant with "golden volumes" which are in fact
volumes created from images. Those golden volumes are used to optimize
the volume creation.
The SolidFire driver has been modified so that when you create a volume
from an image, it first tries to see if there is a corresponding golden
volume in that special tenant. If one is found, volume is cloned into
the appropriate tenant in a matter of seconds. If none is found, normal
creation process is used.
AFAIK, some storage backends (like Ceph) addressed the issue by
implementing "themselves" in all the OpenStack services: Nova, Glance
and Cinder. They now have the ability to optimize each steps of the
lifecycle of an instance/volume by simply cloning volumes instead of
re-downloading a whole image to finally end up in the same backend the
original image was stored in.
While this is cool for Ceph, other backends don't have this luxury and
we are stucked in this "sorry state".
--
Mathieu
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