[openstack-dev] [api] Forming the API Working Group
GHANSHYAM MANN
ghanshyammann at gmail.com
Wed Oct 15 02:30:11 UTC 2014
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 7:44 AM, Christopher Yeoh <cbkyeoh at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 14 Oct 2014 09:45:44 -0400
> Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On 10/14/2014 12:52 AM, Christopher Yeoh wrote:
> > > On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 22:20:32 -0400
> > > Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 10/13/2014 07:11 PM, Christopher Yeoh wrote:
> > >>> On Mon, 13 Oct 2014 10:52:26 -0400
> > > And whilst I don't have a problem with having some guidelines which
> > > suggest a future standard for APIs, I don't think we should be
> > > requiring any type of feature which has not yet been implemented in
> > > at least one, preferably two openstack projects and released and
> > > tested for a cycle. Eg standards should be lagging rather than
> > > leading.
> >
> > What about "features" in some of our APIs that are *not* preferable?
> > For instance: API extensions.
> >
> > I think we've seen where API extensions leads us. And it isn't
> > pretty. Would you suggest we document what a Nova API extension or a
> > Neutron API extension looks like and then propose, for instance, not
> > to ever do it again in future APIs and instead use schema
> > discoverability?
>
> So if we had standards leading development rather than lagging in the
> past then API extensions would have ended up in the standard because we
> once thought they were a good idea.
>
> Perhaps we should distinguish in the documentation between
> recommendations (future looking) and standards (proven it works well
> for us). The latter would be potentially enforced a lot more strictly
> than the former.
>
That will be great to have classification in guidelines (Strict
, recommended etc ) and step by step those can be moved to higher
classification as project start consuming those.
> In the case of extensions I think we should have a section documenting
> why we think they're a bad idea and new projects certainly shouldn't
> use them. But also give some advice around if they are used what
> features they should have (eg version numbers!). Given the time that it
> takes to make major API infrastructure changes it is inevitable that
> there will be api extensions added in the short to medium term. Because
> API development will not just stop while API infrastructure is improved.
>
> > > I think it will be better in git (but we also need it in gerrit)
> > > when it comes to resolving conflicts and after we've established a
> > > decent document (eg when we have more content). I'm just looking to
> > > make it as easy as possible for anyone to add any guidelines now.
> > > Once we've actually got something to discuss then we use git/gerrit
> > > with patches proposed to resolve conflicts within the document.
> >
> > Of course it would be in Gerrit. I just put it up on GitHub first
> > because I can't just add a repo into the openstack/ code
> > namespace... :)
>
> I've submitted a patch to add an api-wg project using your repository
> as the initial content for the git repository.
>
> https://review.openstack.org/#/c/128466/
>
> Regards,
>
> Chris
>
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Ghanshyam Mann
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