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Hi,

Frankly speaking, I'm not sure on how 1st approach will even work.
What if plugin doesn't provide any checkboxes (and in most cases it
won't)? How should we determine in serializer, which plugins should be
applied while generating astute.yaml and tasks.yaml? Should we
autogenerate some stuff for plugins which are not even enabled and do
needless work?

This looks too complicated for me from the backend side, and option
with enabling/disabling plugins in wizard for specific environment (we
can invent mechanism to disable them on env which is not deployed yet,
besides, for API it's just one PUT) is MUCH simpler and much more
obvious, as I see.



On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:34 AM, Vitaly Kramskikh
<vkramskikh at mirantis.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I would go with the 1st approach. The thing I don't like in the 2nd approach
> is that we have to make the user enable plugin twice. For example, we have
> to enable Ceph as a plugin and then add Ceph role to nodes and choose what
> we want to store in Ceph (images, objects). Why we would need to explicitly
> enable Ceph plugin? Let's always show plugin options in wizard and settings
> tab, and if the user just doesn't want to enable Ceph, he would just leave
> all the checkboxes unchecked. The 2nd approach would also lead to some kind
> of inconsistency in case the user enabled Ceph plugin but left all the
> Ceph-related checkboxes unchecked and didn't add Ceph nodes.
>
> 2014-10-07 21:17 GMT+07:00 Evgeniy L <eli at mirantis.com>:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We had a meeting today about plugins on UI, as result of the meeting
>> we have two approaches and this approaches affect not only UX but
>> plugins itself.
>>
>> 1st - disable/enable plugin on settings tab
>>
>> user installs the plugin
>> creates a cluster
>> configures and enables/disables plugins on settings tab
>>
>> For user it will look like Ceph plugin checkboxes on settings tab,
>> if he enables checkbox, then we pass the parameter to orchestrator
>> as `true`.
>>
>> Cons:
>>
>> plugin developer should define a checkbox in each plugin (for plugin
>> disabling/enabling)
>> on the backend we have to enable all of the plugins for environment,
>> because user can define any name for his checkbox and we won't be able to
>> find it and make appropriate mapping plugin <-> env
>> since all of the plugins are always "enabled" we have to run tasks for all
>> of the plugins, and each plugin should parse astute.yaml in order to figure
>> out if it's required to run task current script
>>
>> Pros:
>>
>> it won't require additional setting or step for wizard
>> user will be able to disable plugin after environment creation
>>
>> 2nd - enable plugins in wizard
>>
>> user installs the plugin
>> now he can choose specific plugins for his environment in wizard
>> after cluster is created, he can configure additional parameters on
>> settings tab, if plugin provides any
>>
>> Cons:
>>
>> user won't be able to disable plugin after cluster is created
>> additional step or configuration subcategory in wizard
>>
>> Pros:
>>
>> On backend we always know which plugin is disabled and which is enabled.
>>
>> it means we don't provide settings for plugins which are disabled
>> we don't run tasks on slaves if it's not required
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
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>
>
>
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