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Hi François,

I guess this mail was directed to me personally but I'll answer here, 
this might be useful for the translation teams.

There's no existing translation for the HOT guide yet, and I'm not sure 
that now is the best time to get started. The (temporary standalone) HOT 
guide will end up as a user guide section, in docbook (not RST). I'm 
currently rewriting some sections and more content will be added soon, 
so expect lots of modifications. As soon as it's ready to be officially 
published in the user guide, the translation tools will import the 
docbook strings in transifex (that's the plan at least).

Gauvain

Le 2014-10-06 16:05, François Bureau a écrit :
> Bonjour Gauvain,
> 
> Un gros bravo pour cette documentation sur Heat qui est très complète.
> 
> Est-ce que par hasard vous auriez déjà une version française ? ;)
> 
> Best,
> 
> F.
> 
> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Gauvain Pocentek [mailto:gauvain.pocentek at objectif-libre.com]
> Envoyé : lundi 6 octobre 2014 07:06
> À : Tom Fifield
> Cc : OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions);
> openstack-docs at lists.openstack.org
> Objet : Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack-docs] Contributing to docs
> without Docbook -- YES you can!
> 
> Le 2014-10-06 05:26, Tom Fifield a écrit :
>> On 04/10/14 04:03, Nick Chase wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Stefano Maffulli
>>> <stefano at openstack.org <mailto:stefano at openstack.org>> wrote:
>>>     >  1. Pick an existing topic or create a new topic. For new
>>> topics,
>>>     we're
>>>     >     primarily interested in deployment scenarios.
>>>     >  2. Develop content (text and/or diagrams) in a format that
>>>     supports at
>>>     >     least basic markup (e.g., titles, paragraphs, lists, 
>>> etc.).
>>>     >  3. Provide a link to the content (e.g., gist on github.com
>>>     <http://github.com>, wiki page,
>>>     >     blog post, etc.) under the associated topic.
>>> 
>>>     Points 1-3 seem to be oriented at removing Launchpad from the
>>> equation.
>>>     Is that all there is? I guess it makes sense to remove 
>>> obstacles,
>>>     although editing the wiki (since it requires a launchpad account
>>> anyway)
>>>     may not be the best way to track progress and see assignments.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> No, really, the main change is in step 5.  Launchpad isn't the
>>> problem, as far as we can tell; Docbook is.
>> 
>> Hi Nick,
>> 
>> As best I can tell - 'step 5' has been in place for at least the last
>> few summits at least, so this is not a change :) We have had a policy
>> where anyone can dump text in bug reports and we'll wrangle it. This
>> has been popular, see eg Marco Cossoni's contributions, but in my
>> opinion not widely enough communicated - so thanks for your efforts.
> 
> We actually have another way to work with developers, although it's
> been only available for the new HOT guide. This guide is temporary, it
> will become a part of the user guide. The interesting point is that
> it's written in RST, and uses gerrit for reviews. So far we've had 2
> core members of the heat team contributing content, and this content
> has been reviewed by other members of the team.
> 
> The devs patches focused on content, not on the form of the content.
> I suggested to accept the patches rapidly - as long as they're
> technically correct - and to rework them later (what I've started to
> do a couple days ago). The fact that we're using gerrit and that the
> developers review each other work makes me more comfortable with the
> quality of the content.
> 
> I'd really like to see this process extended to a larger part of the
> documentation, although this might not be needed everywhere.
> 
> I had this workflow in mind:
> 
> * a dev sends a review to a temporary repo
> * other devs can validate the information, and give their +1 when the
> patch is ready
> * a doc reviewer either requests more technical detail, or gives his
> +2/accept
> * the doc team reworks the patch and integrates it to the doc 
> repository
> 
> I really think that the process worked for the HOT guide, and I'm
> convinced that it could work for other parts of the doc (Cinder and
> Neutron drivers doc for instance).
> 
> As a side note, we have a tool that converts RST to docbook. The hot
> guide is automatically built using this tool
> (http://docs.openstack.org/hot-guide/content/hot_guide_hot-guide.html).
> 
> Gauvain
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