[openstack-dev] suds-jurko, new in our global-requirements.txt: what is the point?!?

Thomas Goirand zigo at debian.org
Fri Nov 28 23:41:09 UTC 2014

On 11/28/2014 07:35 PM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
> On 27/11/14 19:10, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>> On 11/28/2014 12:06 AM, Ihar Hrachyshka wrote:
>>> On 27/11/14 12:09, Thomas Goirand wrote:
>>>> On 11/27/2014 12:31 AM, Donald Stufft wrote:
>>>>>> On Nov 26, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Thomas Goirand
>>>>>> <zigo at debian.org> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> I tried to package suds-jurko. I was first happy to see
>>>>>> that there was some progress to make things work with
>>>>>> Python 3. Unfortunately, the reality is that suds-jurko has
>>>>>> many issues with Python 3. For example, it has many:
>>>>>> except Exception, e:
>>>>>> as well as many:
>>>>>> raise Exception, 'Duplicate key %s found' % k
>>>>>> This is clearly not Python3 code. I tried quickly to fix
>>>>>> some of these issues, but as I fixed a few, others appear.
>>>>>> So I wonder, what is the point of using suds-jurko, which
>>>>>> is half-baked, and which will conflict with the suds
>>>>>> package?
>>>>> It looks like it uses 2to3 to become Python 3 compatible.
>>>> Outch! That's horrible.
>>>> I think it'd be best if someone spent some time on writing
>>>> real code rather than using such a hack as 2to3. Thoughts
>>>> anyone?
>>> That sounds very subjective. If upstream is able to support
>>> multiple python versions from the same codebase, then I see no
>>> reason for them to split the code into multiple branches and
>>> introduce additional burden syncing fixes between those.
>>> /Ihar
>> Objectively, using 2to3 sux, and it's much better to fix the code, 
>> rather than using such a band-aid. It is possible to support
>> multiple version of Python with a single code base. So many
>> projects are able to do it, I don't see why suds would be any
>> different.
> Their support matrix starts from Python 2.4. Maybe that's a reason for
> band-aid and not using runtime cross-version wrappers.
> /Ihar

If that's the reason, then that's unreasonable. I may as well ask for
supporting my old Atari 16 bits computers too then...

So finally: I don't think using suds-jurko is of any help, unless it
does a big step to stay current with modern Python 3.


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