[openstack-dev] [Nova] Handling soft delete for instance rows in a new cells database

Michael Still mikal at stillhq.com
Thu Nov 27 21:20:53 UTC 2014


On Fri, Nov 28, 2014 at 2:59 AM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/26/2014 04:24 PM, Mike Bayer wrote:
>>>
>>> Precisely. Why is the RDBMS the thing that is used for
>>> archival/audit logging? Why not a NoSQL store or a centralized log
>>> facility? All that would be needed would be for us to standardize
>>> on the format of the archival record, standardize on the things to
>>> provide with the archival record (for instance system metadata,
>>> etc), and then write a simple module that would write an archival
>>> record to some backend data store.
>>>
>>> Then we could rid ourselves of the awfulness of the shadow tables
>>> and all of the read_deleted=yes crap.
>>
>>
>>
>> +1000 - if we’re really looking to “do this right”, as the original
>> message suggested, this would be “right”.  If you don’t need these
>> rows in the app (and it would be very nice if you didn’t), dump it
>> out to an archive file / non-relational datastore.   As mentioned
>> elsewhere, this is entirely acceptable for organizations that are
>> “obliged” to store records for auditing purposes.   Nova even already
>> has a dictionary format for everything set up with nova objects, so
>> dumping these dictionaries out as JSON would be the way to go.
>
>
> OK, spec added:
>
> https://review.openstack.org/137669

At this point I don't think we should block the cells reworking effort
on this spec. I'm happy for people to pursue this, but I think its
unlikely to be work that is completed in kilo. We can transition the
new cells databases at the same time we fix the main database.

Michael



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