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On 11/12/2014 11:06 AM, Salvatore Orlando wrote:
> On 12 November 2014 09:53, marios <marios at redhat.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote:
>>> On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote:
>>>> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>>>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an
>>>>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication
>> between
>>>>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a
>>>>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth
>>>>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not
>> be
>>>>> a productive thing as a whole.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before.
>>>>
>>>> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down
>>>> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even
>>>> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that
>>>> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of
>>>> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring
>>>> at the etherpad being updated.  I don't see this as having a high cost
>>>> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end),
>>>>
>>>> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you
>>>> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is
>>>> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very
>>>> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any
>>>> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the
>>>> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which
>>>> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik),
>>>>
>>>> my 2c, thanks, marios
>>> You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't
>>> you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in
>>> private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some
>>> finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for
>>> neutron that need financial assistance.
>>
>> thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that
>> this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate
>> engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles.
>>
> 
> You should not see yourself as evil and not worth using foundation budget
> just because you work for a private enterprise!
> After all - it's corporations like yours and mine which fund OpenStack.
> If for any reason your employer can' authorise your travel, and - obviously
> - if you want to come, you should probably do as Anita suggests.
Thanks Salvadore.

Please start by talking to your manager, marios, if they are willing to
finance any part of your travel (accommodation or food) that is a start.
We can see about organizing car pooling for you. I have a friend in Lehi
who has recommended I rent a car which I am planning on doing. We can
work with others who rent cars to ensure you have a ride to and from the
airport, to meetings, to restaurants and whereever else you need to travel.

The main decision point is if you want to come. If you want to come we
will do our best to help you attend. But only you can make that
decision. Do let use know what you want.

Thanks,
Anita.
> 
> 
>> To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't
>> make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit
>> is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the
>> general 'help out/reviews etc').
> 
> 
> As we are working to get somebody from QA & Infra at the meetup, we will
> probably have a "working table" dedicated to testing.
> 
> 
>> Neither of those are controversial or
>> require any particular deep discussion about approach :).
> 
> 
> We're not meeting to argue or have fights. There's already a summit every 6
> months for that! This meeting is about finalizing designs into low level
> aspects and then getting our hands dirty on the keyboard.
> 
> 
>> I am based in
>> the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to
>> the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the
>> states.
>>
>>
> Fortunately there are no easyjets or ryanairs for intercontinental flights.
> You can buy reasonably priced tickets up to 2 weeks before departure. Idk
> where you are precisely but flights from London, Rome, and Munich to Salt
> Lake City are around 850 euros at the moment.
> 
> 
> 
>> thanks! marios
>>
>>>
>>> Having you there is far more productive than not.
>>>
>>> Thank you,
>>> Anita.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800:
>>>>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for
>> spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mestery at mestery.com]
>>>>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14
>>>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [
>> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org]
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton <gkotton at vmware.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access?
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google
>>>>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I
>> was
>>>>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the
>> details
>>>>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10
>>>>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi,
>> Utah,
>>>>>>>> USA.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the
>>>>>>>> etherpad later today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris!
>>>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle
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