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On 12/11/14 11:18, Anita Kuno wrote:
> On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote:
>> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote:
>>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an
>>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between
>>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a
>>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth
>>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be
>>> a productive thing as a whole.
>>>
>>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before.
>>
>> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down
>> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even
>> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that
>> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of
>> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring
>> at the etherpad being updated.  I don't see this as having a high cost
>> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end),
>>
>> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you
>> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is
>> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very
>> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any
>> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the
>> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which
>> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik),
>>
>> my 2c, thanks, marios
> You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't
> you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in
> private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some
> finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for
> neutron that need financial assistance.

thanks very much for your kind offer Anita :) - my gut feeling is that
this kind of funding shouldn't be used to subsidize travel for corporate
engineers, but it is excellent to know it is there regardles.

To be fair I haven't even mentioned this to my manager - imo it doesn't
make sense for this one. The specific technical debt I scored at summit
is functional testing for l2-agent and dhcp-agent (as well as the
general 'help out/reviews etc'). Neither of those are controversial or
require any particular deep discussion about approach :). I am based in
the far eastern Mediterranean so 1 month is probably also very close to
the minimum time before which you can comfortably plan travel to the states.

thanks! marios

> 
> Having you there is far more productive than not.
> 
> Thank you,
> Anita.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800:
>>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mestery at mestery.com]
>>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14
>>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org]
>>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton <gkotton at vmware.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access?
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google
>>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>> Kyle
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was
>>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details
>>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10
>>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah,
>>>>>> USA.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the
>>>>>> etherpad later today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris!
>>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle
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