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On 11/12/2014 08:04 AM, marios wrote:
> On 12/11/14 04:17, Clint Byrum wrote:
>> Just as a counter-point: The entire reason that a mid-cycle is an
>> important thing to do is to achieve higher bandwidth communication between
>> contributors. We can do Hangouts all the time and that's certainly a
>> useful thing. But making the people in the room who have high bandwidth
>> slow down for those who are at the other end of low-bandwidth may not be
>> a productive thing as a whole.
>>
>> Anyway, just a thought as somebody who has tried this before.
> 
> I understand but I am definitely not saying the room should slow down
> for someone on hangout - heck I'd be ecstatic if microphones are even
> used). In my experience this can work best if it is understood that
> remotees have a read-only feed into the room audio (best case + video of
> slides) - it makes the world of difference compared to say just staring
> at the etherpad being updated.  I don't see this as having a high cost
> to setup (just point a laptop at the speaker, end),
> 
> If you are a remotee and need read/write into the meeeting then you
> should prepare beforehand and have stuff written down to share. It is
> only common courtesy, and I absolutely agree it would be in the very
> least inconsiderate to expect the room to stop/slow down to allow any
> kind of conversation to happen over hangout. In fact, just click the
> on-air button and that way you get a youtube link to share, which
> obviously *is* read-only (r/w participation is limited @ 10 afaik),
> 
> my 2c, thanks, marios
You seem to have put quite a bit of thought into this marios, why can't
you attend? If the reason is purely financial, please approach Kyle in
private and I will contact him as well to see if we can access some
finances for folks committed to working on the technical debt for
neutron that need financial assistance.

Having you there is far more productive than not.

Thank you,
Anita.
> 
> 
>>
>> Excerpts from Marios Andreou's message of 2014-11-11 08:56:05 -0800:
>>> +1 would be great to at least have a hangout going
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _sent from my mobile device, sorry for spacing/spelling/top-posting/.*_
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Kyle Mestery [mestery at mestery.com]
>>> Received: Tuesday, 11 Nov 2014, 16:14
>>> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions) [openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org]
>>> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [neutron] Neutron mid-cycle announcement
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 8:00 AM, Gary Kotton <gkotton at vmware.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> For those unable to attend will there be an option of remote access?
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>> We'll do our best to make this happen. I'll see if we can get a Google
>>> Hangout going in the room, and make sure people are on IRC.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Kyle
>>>
>>>> On 11/11/14, 3:04 PM, "Kyle Mestery" <mestery at mestery.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apologies for the delay in announcing the Neutron mid-cycle, but I was
>>>>> confirming the details up until last night. I've captured the details
>>>>> on an etherpad here [1]. The dates are December 8-10
>>>>> (Monday-Wednesday), and it will be at the Adobe offices in Lehi, Utah,
>>>>> USA.
>>>>>
>>>>> We're still collecting information on hotels which should be on the
>>>>> etherpad later today.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, looking forward to seeing everyone I missed in Paris!
>>>>> Kyle
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/neutron-kilo-midcycle
>>>>>
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