[openstack-dev] Designate Incubation Request

Carl Baldwin carl at ecbaldwin.net
Wed May 28 20:04:20 UTC 2014


+1

This makes sense except that I'm not sure what the "Network Program"
is.  Is there already such a thing formally?

Carl

On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, Sean Dague <sean at dague.net> wrote:
> I would agree this doesn't make sense in Neutron.
>
> I do wonder if it makes sense in the Network program. I'm getting
> suspicious of the programs for projects model if every new project
> incubating in seems to need a new program. Which isn't really a
> reflection on designate, but possibly on our program structure.
>
>         -Sean
>
> On 05/28/2014 02:21 PM, Carl Baldwin wrote:
>> Does this make sense in Neutron?  In my opinion it doesn't.
>>
>> DNSaaS is external to Neutron and is independent.  It serves DNS
>> requests that can come from the internet just as well as they can come
>> from VMs in the cloud (but through the network external to the cloud).
>>  It can serve IPs for cloud resources just as well as it can serve IPs
>> for resources outside the cloud. The services are separated by the
>> external network (from Neutron's perspective).
>>
>> Neutron only provides very limited DNS functionality which forwards
>> DNS queries to an external resolver to facilitate the ability for VMs
>> to lookup DNS.   It injects names and IPs for VMs on the same network
>> but currently this needs some work with Neutron.  I don't think it
>> makes sense for Neutron to provide an external facing DNS service.
>> Neutron is about moving network traffic within a cloud and between the
>> cloud and external networks.
>>
>> My $0.02.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 6:42 PM, Joe Gordon <joe.gordon0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Hayes, Graham <graham.hayes at hp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> Designate would like to apply for incubation status in OpenStack.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Our application is here:
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Incubation_Application
>>>
>>>
>>> Based on
>>> http://git.openstack.org/cgit/openstack/governance/tree/reference/incubation-integration-requirements.rst
>>> I have a few questions:
>>>
>>> * You mention nova's dns capabilities as not being adequate one of the
>>> incubation requirements is:
>>>
>>>
>>>   Project should not inadvertently duplicate functionality present in other
>>>   OpenStack projects. If they do, they should have a clear plan and
>>> timeframe
>>>   to prevent long-term scope duplication
>>>
>>>
>>>     So what is the plan for this?
>>>
>>> * Can you expand on why this doesn't make sense in neutron when things like
>>> LBaaS do.
>>>
>>> * Your application doesn't cover all the items raised in the incubation
>>> requirements list. For example the QA requirement of
>>>
>>>
>>>  Project must have a basic devstack-gate job set up
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>   which as far as I can tell isn't really there, although there appears to
>>> be a devstack based job run as third party which in at least once case
>>> didn't run on a merged patch (https://review.openstack.org/#/c/91115/)
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As part of our application we would like to apply for a new program. Our
>>>> application for the program is here:
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Designate/Program_Application
>>>>
>>>> Designate is a DNS as a Service project, providing both end users,
>>>> developers, and administrators with an easy to use REST API to manage
>>>> their DNS Zones and Records.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Graham
>>>>
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