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Paul good points, and I am very happy to read that your expectations
are very closely aligned with the direction we have taken (in terms of
decoupling of the group policy layer from the underlying building
blocks).

Thanks also Kyle for your earlier email. I believe the team has always
been aligned on the work items you describe. So onward to Juno! ;-)

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Mandeep Dhami <dhami at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Paul. Feedback like this, from actual users of neutron in large
> deployments, is the very reason why I feel so strongly that we need to keep
> this a high priority work item.
>
> Regards,
> Mandeep
>
>
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 9:28 AM, CARVER, PAUL <pc2929 at att.com> wrote:
>>
>> Mohammad Banikazemi wrote:
>>
>> >in Atlanta the support was overwhelmingly positive in my opinion. I just
>> > wanted to make sure this does not get >lost in our discussions.
>>
>> Absolutely. I hadn’t been following the group policy discussions prior to
>> the summit but I was very impressed with what I saw and heard.
>>
>>
>> >to in particular discuss the possibility of making the code less tightly
>> > coupled with Neutron core.
>>
>> +1 to making it less tightly coupled (although I haven’t been inside the
>> code to have an opinion on how tightly coupled it is now)
>>
>> Let’s keep in mind OSI-like layers and well defined interfaces between
>> them. Coming from a hardware networking background I find it very convenient
>> to think in terms of ports, networks, subnets and routers. Those concepts
>> should continue to be basic building blocks of software defined networks.
>> The layer 4+ stuff should be added on top with clean interfaces that don’t
>> entangle functionality up and down the stack.
>>
>> Strict OSI layer compliance has never been a great success, but the
>> general concept has been very useful for a long time All the most painful
>> protocols for a network person to deal with are the ones like SIP where
>> clean separation of layers was indiscriminately  violated.
>>
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