[openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Mini-summit Interest?
geekinutah at gmail.com
Tue Mar 11 16:57:34 UTC 2014
Hangouts worked well at the nova mid-cycle meetup. Just make sure you have
your network situation sorted out before hand. Bandwidth and firewalls are
what comes to mind immediately.
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Tom Creighton
<tom.creighton at rackspace.com>wrote:
> When the Designate team had their mini-summit, they had an open Google
> Hangout for remote participants. We could even have an open conference
> bridge if you are not partial to video conferencing. With the issue of
> inclusion solved, let's focus on a date that is good for the team!
> Tom Creighton
> On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:10 PM, Edgar Magana <emagana at plumgrid.com> wrote:
> > Eugene,
> > A have a few arguments why I believe this is not 100% inclusive
> > * Is the foundation involved on this process? How? What is the
> budget? Who is the responsible from the foundation side?
> > * If somebody made already travel arraignments, it won't be
> possible to make changes at not cost.
> > * Staying extra days in a different city could impact anyone's
> > * As a OpenStack developer. I want to understand why the summit is
> not enough for deciding the next steps for each project. If that is the
> case, I would prefer to make changes on the organization of the summit
> instead of creating mini-summits all around!
> > I could continue but I think these are good enough.
> > I could agree with your point about previous summits being distractive
> for developers, this is why this time the OpenStack foundation is trying
> very hard to allocate specific days for the conference and specific days
> for the summit.
> > The point that I am totally agree with you is that we SHOULD NOT have
> session about work that will be done no matter what! Those are just a
> waste of good time that could be invested in very interesting discussions
> about topics that are still not clear.
> > I would recommend that you express this opinion to Mark. He is the right
> guy to decide which sessions will bring interesting discussions and which
> ones will be just a declaration of intents.
> > Thanks,
> > Edgar
> > From: Eugene Nikanorov <enikanorov at mirantis.com>
> > Reply-To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > Date: Monday, March 10, 2014 10:32 AM
> > To: OpenStack List <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Neutron][LBaaS] Mini-summit Interest?
> > Hi Edgar,
> > I'm neutral to the suggestion of mini summit at this point.
> > Why do you think it will exclude developers?
> > If we keep it 1-3 days prior to OS Summit in Atlanta (e.g. in the same
> city) that would allow anyone who joins OS Summit to save on extra
> > OS Summit itself is too distractive to have really productive
> discussions, unless your missing the sessions and spend time discussing.
> > For instance design sessions basically only good for declaration of
> intents, but not for real discussion of a complex topic at meaningful
> detail level.
> > What would be your suggestions to make this more inclusive?
> > I think the time and place is the key here - hence Atlanta and few days
> prior OS summit.
> > Thanks,
> > Eugene.
> > On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 10:59 PM, Edgar Magana <emagana at plumgrid.com>
> >> Team,
> >> I found that having a mini-summit with a very short notice means
> >> a lot of developers of such an interesting topic for Neutron.
> >> The OpenStack summit is the opportunity for all developers to come
> >> together and discuss the next steps, there are many developers that CAN
> >> NOT afford another trip for a "special" summit. I am personally against
> >> that and I do support Mark's proposal of having all the conversation
> >> IRC and mailing list.
> >> Please, do not start excluding people that won't be able to attend
> >> face-to-face meeting besides the summit. I believe that these are the
> >> little things that make an open source community weak if we do not
> >> it.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Edgar
> >> On 3/6/14 9:51 PM, "Mark McClain" <mmcclain at yahoo-inc.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:31 PM, Jay Pipes <jaypipes at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Thu, 2014-03-06 at 21:14 +0000, Youcef Laribi wrote:
> >> >>> +1
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I think if we can have it before the Juno summit, we can take
> >> >>> concrete, well thought-out proposals to the community at the summit.
> >> >>
> >> >> Unless something has changed starting at the Hong Kong design summit
> >> >> (which unfortunately I was not able to attend), the design summits
> >> >> always been a place to gather to *discuss* and *debate* proposed
> >> >> blueprints and design specs. It has never been about a gathering to
> >> >> rubber-stamp proposals that have already been hashed out in private
> >> >> somewhere else.
> >> >
> >> >You are correct that is the goal of the design summit. While I do
> >> >it is wise to discuss the next steps with LBaaS at this point in time,
> >> >am not a proponent of in person mini-design summits. Many contributors
> >> >to LBaaS are distributed all over the global, and scheduling a mini
> >> >summit with short notice will exclude valuable contributors to the
> >> >I¹d prefer to see an open process with discussions on the mailing list
> >> >and specially scheduled IRC meetings to discuss the ideas.
> >> >
> >> >mark
> >> >
> >> >
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