[openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about volume delete protection

laserjetyang laserjetyang at gmail.com
Tue Mar 11 08:42:48 UTC 2014


I think the workflow management might be a better place to solve your
problem, if I understood correctly


On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Huang Zhiteng <winston.d at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 11:38 AM, Zhangleiqiang
> <zhangleiqiang at huawei.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >
> >
> > Besides the "soft-delete" state for volumes, I think there is need for
> > introducing another "fake delete" state for volumes which have snapshot.
> >
> >
> >
> > Current Openstack refuses the delete request for volumes which have
> > snapshot. However, we will have no method to limit users to only use the
> > specific snapshot other than the original volume ,  because the original
> > volume is always visible for the users.
> >
> >
> >
> > So I think we can permit users to delete volumes which have snapshots,
> and
> > mark the volume as "fake delete" state. When all of the snapshots of the
> > volume have already deleted, the original volume will be removed
> > automatically.
> >
> Can you describe the actual use case for this?  I not sure I follow
> why operator would like to limit the owner of the volume to only use
> specific version of snapshot.  It sounds like you are adding another
> layer.  If that's the case, the problem should be solved at upper
> layer instead of Cinder.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Any thoughts? Welcome any advices.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----------
> >
> > zhangleiqiang
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards
> >
> >
> >
> > From: John Griffith [mailto:john.griffith at solidfire.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 8:38 PM
> >
> >
> > To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> > Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about volume delete
> > protection
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 9:13 PM, John Garbutt <john at johngarbutt.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 6 March 2014 08:50, zhangyu (AI) <zhangyu11 at huawei.com> wrote:
> >> It seems to be an interesting idea. In fact, a China-based public IaaS,
> >> QingCloud, has provided a similar feature
> >> to their virtual servers. Within 2 hours after a virtual server is
> >> deleted, the server owner can decide whether
> >> or not to cancel this deletion and re-cycle that "deleted" virtual
> server.
> >>
> >> People make mistakes, while such a feature helps in urgent cases. Any
> idea
> >> here?
> >
> > Nova has soft_delete and restore for servers. That sounds similar?
> >
> > John
> >
> >
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Zhangleiqiang [mailto:zhangleiqiang at huawei.com]
> >> Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 2:19 PM
> >> To: OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)
> >> Subject: [openstack-dev] [Nova][Cinder] Feature about volume delete
> >> protection
> >>
> >> Hi all,
> >>
> >> Current openstack provide the delete volume function to the user.
> >> But it seems there is no any protection for user's delete operation
> miss.
> >>
> >> As we know the data in the volume maybe very important and valuable.
> >> So it's better to provide a method to the user to avoid the volume
> delete
> >> miss.
> >>
> >> Such as:
> >> We can provide a safe delete for the volume.
> >> User can specify how long the volume will be delay deleted(actually
> >> deleted) when he deletes the volume.
> >> Before the volume is actually deleted, user can cancel the delete
> >> operation and find back the volume.
> >> After the specified time, the volume will be actually deleted by the
> >> system.
> >>
> >> Any thoughts? Welcome any advices.
> >>
> >> Best regards to you.
> >>
> >>
> >> ----------
> >> zhangleiqiang
> >>
> >> Best Regards
> >>
> >>
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> > I think a soft-delete for Cinder sounds like a neat idea.  You should
> file a
> > BP that we can target for Juno.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > John
> >
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