[openstack-dev] Climate Incubation Application

Dina Belova dbelova at mirantis.com
Thu Mar 6 11:23:22 UTC 2014

Sylvain, I love your idea. As you said, that should be designed, but for
the first sight your proposal looks quite nice.

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 3:11 PM, Sylvain Bauza <sylvain.bauza at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi Thierry,
> 2014-03-06 11:46 GMT+01:00 Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>:
> Dina Belova wrote:
>> >> Would Climate also be usable to support functionality like Spot
>> >> Instances ? "Schedule when spot price falls under X" ?
>> >
>> > Really good question. Personally I think that Climate might help
>> > implementing this feature, but probably it's not the main thing that
>> > will work there.
>> >
>> > Here are my concerns about it. Spot instances require way of counting
>> > instance price:
>> > [...]
>> Not necessarily. It's a question of whether Climate would handle only
>> "schedule at" (a given date), or more generally "schedule when" (a
>> certain event happens, with date just being one event type). You can
>> depend on some external system setting spot prices, or any other
>> information, and climate rules that would watch regularly that external
>> information to decide if it's time to run resources or not. I don't
>> think it should be Climate's responsibility to specifically maintain
>> spot price, everyone can come up with their own rules.
> I can't agree more on this. The goal of Climate is to provide some formal
> contract agreement in betwen an user and the Reservation service, for
> ensuring that the order will be placed and served correctly (with regards
> to quotas and capacity). Of course, what we call 'user' doesn't formally
> tend to be a 'real' user.
> About spot instances use-case, I don't pretend to design it, but I could
> easily imagine that a call to Nova for booting an instance would place an
> order to Climate with a specific type of contract (what we began to call
> 'best-effort' and which needs to be implemented yet) where notifications
> for acquitting the order would come from Ceilometer (for instance). If no
> notifications come to Climate, the lease would not be honored.
> See https://wiki.openstack.org/wiki/Climate#Lease_types_.28concepts.29 for
> best-effort definition of a lease.
> -Sylvain
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Best regards,

Dina Belova

Software Engineer

Mirantis Inc.
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