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On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 10:21 AM, Doug Hellmann <doug.hellmann at dreamhost.com
> wrote:

> On Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 6:29 AM, Thierry Carrez <thierry at openstack.org>
> wrote:
> > Mark McLoughlin wrote:
> >> On Tue, 2014-06-10 at 16:09 +0100, Duncan Thomas wrote:
> >>> On 10 June 2014 15:07, Mark McLoughlin <markmc at redhat.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Exposing which configurations are actively "tested" is a perfectly
> sane
> >>>> thing to do. I don't see why you think calling this "certification" is
> >>>> necessary to achieve your goals.
> >>>
> >>> What is certification except a formal way of saying 'we tested it'? At
> >>> least when you test it enough to have some degree of confidence in
> >>> your testing.
> >>>
> >>> That's *exactly* what certification means.
> >>
> >> I disagree. I think the word has substantially more connotations than
> >> simply "this has been tested".
> >>
> >>
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-June/036963.html
> >
> > I agree with Mark (and Anita's original rationale) that the "certified"
> > term conveys a level of guarantee we, as an open source project, can't
> > really back. Using softer terminology ("tested", "CI tested"...) is
> > therefore preferable.
> >
> > I also don't buy the argument that "others" would abuse that terminology
> > if we didn't occupy it ourselves. The only body that could efficiently
> > "certify" would be the Board of Directors of the OpenStack Foundation,
> > setting up some official certification program backed with the trademark
> > usage. Anyone else would just "certify" under their own, independent,
> > non-OpenStack program. I don't think us using that terminology would
> > prevent them from doing that anyway. As long as the board makes sure the
> > trademark is not abused in such 3rd-party "certification" programs, I
> > think we are ok...
> >
> > --
> > Thierry Carrez (ttx)
>
> +1
>
> Doug
>
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Thanks everybody for the feedback on this, I appreciate it.  Like I said
initially, I don't have much of a stake in this but there were folks that
did so I wanted to give everyone a chance to discuss here publicly on the
ML.  Whether I agree with the opinions stated in this thread or not (and
for a number of them I really don't) doesn't matter.

Maybe since what we're talking about is "CI Tested" maybe we should just
call it that and be done.
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