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On Feb 26, 2014, at 11:47 AM, Joe Gordon <joe.gordon0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 9:05 AM, David Ripton <dripton at redhat.com> wrote:
>> On 02/26/2014 11:40 AM, Joe Gordon wrote:
>> 
>>> This is missing the point about manually enforcing style. If you pass
>>> the 'pep8' job there is no need to change any style.
>> 
>> 
>> In a perfect world, yes.
> 
> While there are exceptions to this,  this just sounds like being extra
> nit-picky.  

The current reality is that reviewers do vote and comment based on the rules in
the hacking guide. In terms of style, whether my patch gets approved or not depends
on who reviews it.

I think that clarifying this in the hacking guide and including it in our test suites
would remove the personal bias from it. I don’t see folks complaining that Jenkins is
being nit-picky as a reviewer.

> The important aspect here is the mindset, if we don't gate
> on style rule x, then we shouldn't waste valuable human review time
> and patch revisions on trying to manually enforce it (And yes there
> are exceptions to this).
> 
>> 
>> In the real world, there are several things in PEP8 or our project
>> guidelines that the tools don't enforce perfectly.  I think it's fine for
>> human reviewers to point such things out.  (And then submit a patch to
>> hacking to avoid the need to do so in the future.)
> 
> To clarify, we don't rely on long term human enforcement for something
> that a computer can do.
> 

Precisely. I’m offering to include this as a patch to hacking or even a separate
test that we can add (without gating initially).

>> 
>> --
>> David Ripton   Red Hat   dripton at redhat.com
>> 
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