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Yes Ryan, that's exactly what I'm thinking. Glad to know that we have the same opinion :)


BR
Kurt


-----邮件原件-----
发件人: Ryan Brown [mailto:rybrown at redhat.com] 
发送时间: 2014年12月12日 23:30
收件人: openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org
主题: Re: [openstack-dev] [Openstack] [Ceilometer] [API] Batch alarm creation

On 12/12/2014 03:37 AM, Rao Dingyuan wrote:
> Hi Eoghan and folks,
> 
> I'm thinking of adding an API to create multiple alarms in a batch.
> 
> I think adding an API to create multiple alarms is a good option to solve the problem that once an *alarm target* (a vm or a new group of vms) is created, multiple requests will be fired because multiple alarms are to be created.
> 
> In the our current project, this requiement is specially urgent since our alarm target is one VM, and 6 alarms are to be created when one VM is created.
> 
> What do you guys think?
> 
> 
> Best Regards,
> Kurt Rao

Allowing batch operations is definitely a good idea, though it may not be a solution to all of the problems you outlined.

One way to batch object creations would be to give clients the option to POST a collection of alarms instead of a single alarm. Currently your API looks like[1]:

POST /v2/alarms

BODY:
{
  "alarm_actions": ...
  ...
}

For batches you could modify your API to accept a body like:

{
  "alarms": [
    {"alarm_actions": ...},
    {"alarm_actions": ...},
    {"alarm_actions": ...},
    {"alarm_actions": ...}
  ]
}

It could (pretty easily) be a backwards-compatible change since the schemata don't conflict, and you can even add some kind of a "batch":true flag to make it explicit that the user wants to create a collection. The API-WG has a spec[2] out right now explaining the rationale behind collection representations.


[1]:
http://docs.openstack.org/developer/ceilometer/webapi/v2.html#post--v2-alarms
[2]:
https://review.openstack.org/#/c/133660/11/guidelines/representation_structure.rst,unified
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original -----
> 发件人: Eoghan Glynn [mailto:eglynn at redhat.com]
> 发送时间: 2014年12月3日 20:34
> 收件人: Rao Dingyuan
> 抄送: openstack at lists.openstack.org
> 主题: Re: [Openstack] [Ceilometer] looking for alarm best practice - 
> please help
> 
> 
> 
>> Hi folks,
>>
>>
>>
>> I wonder if anyone could share some best practice regarding to the 
>> usage of ceilometer alarm. We are using the alarm 
>> evaluation/notification of ceilometer and we don’t feel very well of 
>> the way we use it. Below is our
>> problem:
>>
>>
>>
>> ============================
>>
>> Scenario:
>>
>> When cpu usage or memory usage above a certain threshold, alerts 
>> should be displayed on admin’s web page. There should be a 3 level 
>> alerts according to meter value, namely notice, warning, fatal. 
>> Notice means the meter value is between 50% ~ 70%, warning means 
>> between 70% ~ 85% and fatal means above 85%
>>
>> For example:
>>
>> * when one vm’s cpu usage is 72%, an alert message should be 
>> displayed saying
>> “Warning: vm[d9b7018b-06c4-4fba-8221-37f67f6c6b8c] cpu usage is above 70%”.
>>
>> * when one vm’s memory usage is 90%, another alert message should be 
>> created saying “Fatal: vm[d9b7018b-06c4-4fba-8221-37f67f6c6b8c] 
>> memory usage is above 85%”
>>
>>
>>
>> Our current Solution:
>>
>> We used ceilometer alarm evaluation/notification to implement this. 
>> To distinguish which VM and which meter is above what value, we’ve 
>> created one alarm for each VM by each condition. So, to monitor 1 VM,
>> 6 alarms will be created because there are 2 meters and for each meter there are 3 levels.
>> That means, if there are 100 VMs to be monitored, 600 alarms will be 
>> created.
>>
>>
>>
>> Problems:
>>
>> * The first problem is, when the number of meters increases, the 
>> number of alarms will be multiplied. For example, customer may want 
>> alerts on disk and network IO rates, and if we do that, there will be
>> 4*3=12 alarms for each VM.
>>
>> * The second problem is, when one VM is created, multiple alarms will 
>> be created, meaning multiple http requests will be fired. In the case 
>> above, 6 HTTP requests will be needed once a VM is created. And this 
>> number also increases as the number of meters goes up.
> 
> One way of reducing both the number of alarms and the volume of notifications would be to group related VMs, if such a concept exists in your use-case.
> 
> This is effectively how Heat autoscaling uses ceilometer, alarming on the average of some statistic over a set of instances (as opposed to triggering on individual instances).
> 
> The VMs could be grouped by setting user-metadata of form:
> 
>   nova boot ... --meta metering.my_server_group=foobar
> 
> Any user-metadata prefixed with 'metering.' will be preserved by ceilometer in the resource_metadata.user_metedata stored for each sample, so that it can used to select the statistics on which the alarm is based, e.g.
> 
>   ceilometer alarm-threshold-create --name cpu_high_foobar \
>     --description 'warning: foobar instance group running hot' \
>     --meter-name cpu_util --threshold 70.0 \
>     --comparison-operator gt --statistic avg \
>     ...
>     --query metadata.user_metedata.my_server_group=foobar
> 
> This approach is of course predicated on the there being some natural grouping relation between instances in your environment.
> 
> Cheers,
> Eoghan
> 
> 
>> =============================
>>
>>
>>
>> Do anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards!
>>
>> Kurt Rao
>>
>>
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