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+1 Mohammad.
On Aug 6, 2014 11:08 PM, "Mohammad Banikazemi" <mb at us.ibm.com> wrote:

> Yes, indeed.
> I do not want to be over dramatic but the discussion on the original "Group
> Based Policy and the way forward" thread is nothing short of heartbreaking.
> After months and months of discussions, three presentations at the past
> three summits, a design session at the last summit, and (most relevant to
> this thread) the approval of the spec, why are we talking about the merits
> of the work now?
>
> I understand if people think this is not a good idea or this is not a good
> time. What I do not understand is why these concerns were not raised
> clearly and openly earlier.
>
> Best,
>
> Mohammad
>
>
> [image: Inactive hide details for Stefano Maffulli ---08/06/2014 04:47:21
> PM---On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26 PM PDT, Eugene Nikanorov wro]Stefano
> Maffulli ---08/06/2014 04:47:21 PM---On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26 PM PDT,
> Eugene Nikanorov wrote: > So I don't think it's fair to blame re
>
> From: Stefano Maffulli <stefano at openstack.org>
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List (not for usage questions)" <
> openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Date: 08/06/2014 04:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] How to improve the specs review process (was
> Re: [Neutron] Group Based Policy and the way forward)
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> On Wed 06 Aug 2014 01:21:26 PM PDT, Eugene Nikanorov wrote:
> > So I don't think it's fair to blame reviewers here.
>
> Just want to be super clear: there is no 'blaming' here. This is a
> request to regroup and look at why we are having this conversation about
> GBP now, this late in cycle, and about such fundamental topics (the
> choice of 'endpoint' as name is only one of them), after in-person
> conversations over more than one release cycle and summits.
>
> I am available for the meeting on Monday, Kyle.
>
> In order to prepare for the meeting we should agree on the scope of the
> root cause analysis. I think the problem should be framed around the
> message Mark McClain sent, especially the "Why this email" which I quote
> below:
>
> > Our community has been discussing and working on Group Based Policy
> > (GBP) for many months.  I think the discussion has reached a point
> > where we need to openly discuss a few issues before moving forward.
> [...]
>
> I think the fact that this very fair question has been raised so late is
> the problem we need to find the cause for. Would you agree?
>
> We'll use time during the meeting on Monday to use a simple technique to
> investigate this deeply, no need to spend time now and via email.
>
> /stef
>
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