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Just to add my two cents, while I get that people need to run on older versions of software,
at a certain point you have to bump the minimum version.  Even libvirt 0.9.11 is from April 3rd 2012.
That's two and a third years old at this point.  I think at a certain point we need to say "if you want
to run OpenStack on an older platform, then you'll need to run an older OpenStack or backport the required
packages.

Best Regards,
Solly Ross

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Gordon" <joe.gordon0 at gmail.com>
> To: "OpenStack Development Mailing List" <openstack-dev at lists.openstack.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 7:07:13 PM
> Subject: Re: [openstack-dev] [nova] so what do i do about libvirt-python if i'm on precise?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Jul 30, 2014 3:36 PM, "Clark Boylan" < cboylan at sapwetik.org > wrote:
> > 
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014, at 03:23 PM, Jeremy Stanley wrote:
> > > On 2014-07-30 13:21:10 -0700 (-0700), Joe Gordon wrote:
> > > > While forcing people to move to a newer version of libvirt is
> > > > doable on most environments, do we want to do that now? What is
> > > > the benefit of doing so?
> > > [...]
> > > 
> > > The only dog I have in this fight is that using the split-out
> > > libvirt-python on PyPI means we finally get to run Nova unit tests
> > > in virtualenvs which aren't built with system-site-packages enabled.
> > > It's been a long-running headache which I'd like to see eradicated
> > > everywhere we can. I understand though if we have to go about it
> > > more slowly, I'm just excited to see it finally within our grasp.
> > > --
> > > Jeremy Stanley
> > > 
> > We aren't quite forcing people to move to newer versions. Only those
> > installing nova test-requirements need newer libvirt. This does not
> > include people using eg devstack. I think it is reasonable to expect
> > people testing tip of nova master to have a reasonably newish test bed
> > to test it (its not like the Infra team moves at a really fast pace :)
> > ).
> 
> Based on
> http://lists.openstack.org/pipermail/openstack-dev/2014-July/041457.html
> this patch is breaking people, which is the basis for my concerns. Perhaps
> we should get some further details from Salvatore.
> 
> > 
> > Avoiding system site packages in virtualenvs is a huge win particularly
> > for consistency of test results. It avoids pollution of site packages
> > that can happen differently across test machines. This particular type
> > of inconsistency has been the cause of the previously mentioned
> > headaches.
> 
> I agree this is a huge win, but I am just concerned we don't have any
> deprecation cycle and just roll out a new requirement without a heads up.
> 
> > 
> > Clark
> > 
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