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On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Isaku Yamahata
<isaku.yamahata at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi. Keyle, thank you for starting this discussion to make progress.
>
> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 08:41:19PM -0500,
> Kyle Mestery <mestery at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:20 PM, Doug Hellmann
>> <doug.hellmann at dreamhost.com> wrote:
>> > On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Kyle Mestery <mestery at noironetworks.com> wrote:
>> >> For the upcoming Summit there are 3 sessions filed around "Service
>> >> VMs" in Neutron. After discussing this with a few different people,
>> >> I'd like to propose the idea that the "Service VM" work be moved out
>> >> of Neutron and into it's own project on stackforge. There are a few
>> >> reasons for this:
>> >
>> > How long do you anticipate the project needing to live on stackforge
>> > before it can move to a place where we can introduce symmetric gating
>> > with the projects that use it?
>
> To be honest, I'm not sure how long it will take. We will see after
> the summit.
> At this point, my feeling is
> - before the summit, preliminary discussion, preparation for the summit
> - discuss at the summit (including project name?)
> - after the summit, create its own project on stackforge and start
>   its own activity like weekly IRC meeting.
>   import neutron code repo as the first code base, and cleaning/stripping
>   it up and so on.
>
> What do you think?
>
I think this is a good starting plan.

>
>> The patches for this (look at the BP here [1]) have been in review for
>> a while now as WIP. I think it's reasonable to expect that moving this
>> to stackforge would let the authors and others interested collaborate
>> faster. I expect this would take a cycle on stackforge before we could
>> talk about other projects using this. But honestly, that's a better
>> question for Isaku and Bob.
>
> In fact, this is not the first time that such opinion is claimed.
> But this is the first time to get much feedback.
> It's good timing to give it a consideration.
>
> Just to make it clear, the session slot will be allocated to discuss on
> this? At least it would be valuable to share the current status and
> to discuss on its future direction, and which part will be separated out
> and which part will remain in Neutron.
>
Yes, I will keep this summit session so we can discuss it in Atlanta
and move forward from there.

>
>> > Who is going to drive the development work?
>> >
>> For that, I'm thinking Isaku and Bob (copied above) would be the ones
>> driving it. But anyone else who is interested should feel free to jump
>> in as well.
>
> I'm willing to take the responsibility (and to share it with Bob).
> Also others to help are very welcome.
>
> thanks,
>
>> Thanks,
>> Kyle
>>
>> [1] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/neutron/+spec/adv-services-in-vms
>>
>> > Doug
>> >
>> >>
>> >> 1. There is nothing Neutron specific about service VMs.
>> >> 2. Service VMs can perform services for other OpenStack projects.
>> >> 3. The code is quite large and may be better served being inside it's
>> >> own project.
>> >>
>> >> Moving the work out of Neutron and into it's own project would allow
>> >> for separate velocity for this project, and for code to be shared for
>> >> the Service VM work for things other than Neutron services.
>> >>
>> >> I'm starting this email thread now to get people's feedback on this
>> >> and see what comments other have. I've specifically copied Isaku and
>> >> Bob, who both filed summit sessions on this and have done a lot of
>> >> work in this area to date.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Kyle
>> >>
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