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On 04/15/2014 12:34 PM, Kurt Taylor wrote:
> 
> Anita Kuno <anteaya at anteaya.info> wrote on 04/15/2014 09:41:17 AM:
>> On 04/15/2014 10:20 AM, Kurt Taylor wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry if you get this twice.
>>>
>>> Since summit is approaching quickly, I wanted to see if anyone had
> interest
>>> in forming a meetup for 3rd party testing. This would be a group for
>>> helping the project cores by helping ourselves and hopefully improving
>>> overall CI rollout.
>>>
>>> Some topics to discuss:  I'd at least like to get a standard tag that
> would
>>> help with email filtering, but we could also build a FAQ and
> documentation
>>> contributions to improve the content of the 3rd party testing. We could
>>> also document different use cases and best practices for each on how
>>> different testers solved problems they encountered for their
> environment. I
>>> don't know how long we would be able to meet, so this may just be an
>>> organizational meeting, focusing on how to best share this info.
>>>
>>> I started an etherpad for discussion topics and eventual agenda here:
>>> https://etherpad.openstack.org/p/3rdPartyTesting
>>>
>>> I have not worked out all the details for when and where to meet, but I
>>> would be happy to set it up and facilitate the discussion. I wanted to
> see
>>> if there was any interest before I took it any further.
>>>
>>> Any interest?
> 
>>>
>> There is a summit design session proposed to address this:
>> http://summit.openstack.org/cfp/details/59
>>
>> Entitled: Improving Third Party Testing
>>
>> If you would like to add the information you would like to cover as a
>> comment to the proposal that would help ensure the content gets covered.
> 
> Thanks for your response. I did not know about this and I am glad this is
> proposed. It was my intention originally to propose this type of
> discussion, but after bringing this up in -infra, it was not something the
> team wanted to discuss in a design session. They suggested a BOF or meetup
> at the infra table in developer's lounge. I do not know yet if that
> location is still a possibility or not, as I indicated in my email.
> 
>>
>> Since the purpose of the design summit is to cover material like this, I
>> encourage people to get familiar with the summit sessions that are
>> already proposed: http://summit.openstack.org/ and to propose sessions
>> that you would like covered if you don't see a current proposal for your
>> topic of interest.
>>
>> Since most of what I saw in the Neutron design summit sessions last year
>> is counter to how most other programs use their design summit sessions,
>> I encourage you to consider using the design summit session format.
>> Neutron design summit sessions end up being more like conference
>> presentations and that is not what the design summit was meant to be at
> all.
>>
>> Design summit sessions are meant to be group discussion chaired by
>> either the proposer of the session or someone else but equally discussed
>> by all participants. They are not meant to be a presentation with a
>> passive audience.
> 
> Yes, I am very familiar with UDS-style design summits and have lead several
> design sessions in the past on other projects. I think this is a big factor
> in the enormous success of the OpenStack project.
> 
> There is probably some overlap in the proposed design session and the
> meetup. But, I actually see the meetup as more of a organizational meeting
> to pull together the developers with experience in CI to share ideas and
> how we got past the problems we found.
> 
> Maybe we can wait for the outcome of the session discussion and determine
> next steps after summit?
I can get behind that direction.

Yes it feels like mid-cycle meetups are getting to be more and more
important. Let's bring our ideas to the summit session (hoping it gets a
slot) and continue the discussion afterwards.

Thanks Kurt,
Anita.
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Kurt Taylor (krtaylor)
> OpenStack Development Lead - PowerKVM CI
> IBM Linux Technology Center
> 
> 
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