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On 25/09/13 11:29 +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote:
>Joshua Harlow wrote:
>> +2
>>
>> I think we need to as a community figure out why this is the case and
>> figure out ways to make it not the case.
>>
>> Is it education around what a PTL is? Is it lack of time? Is it something
>> else?
>
>In my view the PTL handles three roles: final decider on
>program-specific issues, release management liaison (for programs
>containing an integrated project) and program ambassador (natural point
>of contact). Note that the last two roles can be delegated.
>
>If you don't delegate anything then it's a lot of work, especially for
>programs with large integrated projects -- so if the current PTL does a
>great job and runs for election again, I suspect everyone else doesn't
>feel the urge to run against him.
>
>FWIW I don't think established PTLs mind being challenged at all. If
>anything, in the past this served to identify people interested in
>project management that could help in the PTL role and serve in a
>succession strategy. So you shouldn't fear to piss of the established
>PTL by challenging them :)
>

I agree with Thierry here.

The PTL role takes time and dedication which is the first thing people
must be aware of before submitting their candidacy. I'm very happy
with the job current PTLs have done, although I certainly don't have a
360 view. This should also be taken under consideration, before
submitting a PTL candidacy, I expect people to ask themselves - and
then share with others - what their plan is for the next development
cycle, how they can improve the project they want to run for, etc.

IMHO, the fact that there hasn't been many candidacies means that
folks are happy with the work current PTLs have done and would love to
have them around for another release cycle. However, this doesn't mean
that folks that have submitted their candidacy are not happy with the
current PTL and I'm very happy to see other folks willing to run for
the PTL possition.

I also think that PTLs have integrated the community at large in their
PTL role and this has definitely helped folks to participate in the
decision process. I've never thought about PTLs as final deciders but
as the ones responsible for leading the team towards a decision that
reflects the best interest of the project.

That being said, I wouldn't worry that much for not seeing so many
candidacies. I think this fits into the "Lazy Consensus" concept.

Cheers,
FF

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