[openstack-dev] [Tuskar] [TripleO] The vision and looking ahead

Adam Young ayoung at redhat.com
Thu Sep 19 14:00:36 UTC 2013


On 09/19/2013 05:19 AM, Imre Farkas wrote:
> On 09/19/2013 10:08 AM, Tomas Sedovic wrote:
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Some of us Tuskar developers have had the chance to meet the TripleO
>> developers face to face and discuss the visions and goals of our 
>> projects.
>>
>> Tuskar's ultimate goal is to have to a full OpenStack management
>> solution: letting the cloud operators try OpenStack, install it, keep it
>> running throughout the entire lifecycle (including bringing in new
>> hardware, burning it in, decommissioning), help to scale it, secure the
>> setup, monitor for failures, project the need for growth and so on.
>>
>> And to provide a good user interface and API to let the operators
>> control and script this easily.
>>
>> Now, the scope of the OpenStack Deployment program (TripleO) includes
>> not just installation, but the entire lifecycle management (from racking
>> it up to decommissioning). Among other things they're thinking of are
>> issue tracker integration and inventory management, but these could
>> potentially be split into a separate program.
>>
>> That means we do have a lot of goals in common and we've just been going
>> at them from different angles: TripleO building the fundamental
>> infrastructure while Tuskar focusing more on the end user experience.
>>
>> We've come to a conclusion that it would be a great opportunity for both
>> teams to join forces and build this thing together.
>>
>> The benefits for Tuskar would be huge:
>>
>> * being a part of an incubated project
>> * more eyballs (see Linus' Law (the ESR one))
>> * better information flow between the current Tuskar and TripleO teams
>> * better chance at attracting early users and feedback
>> * chance to integrate earlier into an OpenStack release (we could make
>> it into the *I* one)
>>
>> TripleO would get a UI and more developers trying it out and helping
>> with setup and integration.
>>
>> This shouldn't even need to derail us much from the rough roadmap we
>> planned to follow in the upcoming months:
>>
>> 1. get things stable and robust enough to demo in Hong Kong on real
>> hardware
>> 2. include metrics and monitoring
>> 3. security
>>
>> What do you think?
>
> That is an excellent idea!
>
> Does it mean from the practical point of view that the Tuskar code 
> will be merged into the TripleO repos and the project will be deleted 
> from StackForge and Launchpad?

I would recommend against that, and instead have the unified team merge, 
but maintain both repos.  Think of how Keystone manages both 
python-keystoneclient and keystone server.

And let me be the first to suggest that the unified team be called 
Tuskarooo!

>
> Imre
>
>>
>> Tomas
>>
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